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[Shovelhandle]

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How far along are they now? Do they look like these, Cat?

[tlranger]

????, If you lay over short fat ladies, exactly what are you trying to gain.

Have tied down outsiders for stealth, laid down couple of males and grew to bloom over foil to catch pollen(actually worked).
But in this case seems like your shading half the plant.

Passed on you sleeping with your lights.

[catbuds]

Well Shov, not exactly. Side branching coming in OVERLY dense. They are so dense its obsene. Branches haven't reached much length yet because of extremely close internodes (just raised lights this am because I want a little stretch to get some light & air). Heavy pruning will be necessary. At this point, they're so dense, there can't be enough air flow & that will leave them prone to fungus diseases if I don't prune pretty heavy. They almost don't look like pot plants. While its impressive as hell to look at, looser plants just don't invite disease like really super dense ones do. They'll be 5wks old Christmas day. I'll be taking pics before & after I prune. This first pruning will just be removing the sunleaves, not touching anything on the branches yet. I usually don't advocate removing sunleaves, but there's PLENTY foliage on the branches, & that will give me better light & air flow to the center of the plants. Compared to yours, mine are shorter, much denser. You can't even see a stem at all. Being sunlovers, most strains I've grown like the fluors 2-3" from the tops, still giving me more internode space than these. What that tells me is they will do quite well outdoors in the partly shaded places I have to hide them. From now on, I'll be keeping the lights 4-6" with these guys.
-- I remember you telling me (I think in you outddor grow log , 2013) that you had a couple under a tree & lost some yield because of it. Try these guys there. They certainly seem to have lower light requirements than anything else I've ever grown! Maybe even increase your number of outdoor plants by putting more of these girls out among shurbs & such. (forgot to mention, these guys are still under T8' in my shoplight! That combined with tight internodes scream lower light needs!) Reads like stealth garden plants to me.....
-- Ranger, I was only kidding about laying them on their side, because I have more vertical space than horizontal, & these guys are VERY horizontal! How's things going after the freeze? Hope you're catching up. I had a little mini rat terrier named Jack who looked almost identical to your Buddy. Smart breed & VERY easy to train. I miss my little man. He was 17. How are you feeling? I know it's slow getting your energy back after something like what you went through, & hard to get friends & family to back off & give you some space. They tend to hover, don't they? You kinda have to remind yourself its because they worry something might happen when no one's around to help you. Hard not to bite their heads off when they hover too much, huh?
-- Ok guys, another LONG post. Bet your eyes are burning! ~~~ PEACE!~~~

[tlranger]

Bud says high(little play on words), he's a little too smart, he thinks he's the boss. Got to play stud dog a month ago, made things worse(funnier). He's the smallest of the six animals here, the only one he doesn't boss is my old female bagal, basette/beagle rabbit dog, having run with a pack on trail she takes no sh*t.

Cold and slow here, but is Xmas and tomarrow it starts, still very tired, not tolerating new heart meds very well yet, and still zero tolerance. Saves on smoke. Get some pics of the fat ladies before they sing.

[Shovelhandle]

Cat,
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here's another run of BB x BG at 5 1/2 weeks. These are usually squat for a while.

[catbuds]

The smaller they are, the bossier they are. Always seems to work out that way!
-- I take pics every Wed on their weekly 'birthday'. My problem with that is posting from a cell ph. No can do. I can email pics, send pics in text mess, but just can't figure out how to post them to a forum. This Wed, Ill take 2 sets of pics, one group before, next group after pruning. Really have to pop off the sunleaves for light & air. Close internodes & big WIDE indica leaves have them way too dense. Side branches plenty leafy enough for photosynthesis & energy production. I never remove any sunleaves unless I've reached that point.
-- Meds. A necessary evil. On on hand, they save our lives. On the other hand, our bodies have ways of telling us they don't like them! I wish I had my grandmas knowledge of herbal medicine. She had herbal remidies that could do the job of every synthetically made med there is, & do it in a healthy way without our bodies protesting! Not saying our tastebuds wouldn't protest though! (Never had a good tasting tincture!) Can't exactly say none were narcotic, because herbally speaking, many of them are, but even then, when its natural our bodies metabolize them easier & differently. If she were still around, she would give you a tonic that would revitalize your energy pretty quick. Really nasty taste though!

[Shovelhandle]

The bubblegum is the wide-wide leaves. I've had to do the same thing before. I took a photo of all the trim and it looked crazy but it wasn't too much, the plants still looked busy as there are tons of branches everywhere. Right?

[catbuds]

Yeah, that run's a little squatter & denser, but why are the leaves on mine so much widder? They're a little more than twice as wide as my thumb. Remember, mine are (BG X BB) X BG, not BB X BG. Guess BG is more indica, so there's a tad more sativa in yours? Well what ever the reason, hope they ONLY stay squat for a while. I actually need them to stretch in bud, & I usually try to hold that back. Its very true that nearly every variety requires a different technique. Next time I know to raise the light a little to get some stretch in veg. They honestly look more like pruned mounds of ivy than pot. Short wide overlapping leaves. I keep saying how wide the leaves are, but they're also the SHORTEST leaves I've ever had! Usually (but not always), the growth form will indicate the bud form. If that holds true, these will make short DENSE hefty buds.
-- Have you grown out any of the beans from the back cross to BG that I have? I'm definitely starting to see two distinct phenos. Three of them are developing more internode spacing, & have longer leaves, 6 of the remaing 7 all look alike, while one is lighter, brighter green with even wider, shorter leaves. Guess that really makes 3 phenos. I'm thinking about inbreeding these for a while to stabilize, but keeping the phenos seperate, & breeding them like 2 seperate strains. I'd almost bet the 3 with more stretch will be more BB, while the squater ones more like BG, & would become even more so once seperated & inbred for a while. I'd really like your feed back on some of this, & if you'd be interested in continuing this conversation, maybe we should take it to MNS PM. I was even thinking once seperate & stable, doing a BB one to blueberry kush. Love BB & LOVE kush (old school hindu kush to be exact). Ummm, doesn't that sound good enough to eat!?!? (Blueberry cheese cake kinda good)!

BTW.... did you know Tapioca is a guy? Glad he told me before I slipped & did the 'girl talk' thing with him in a PM! LOL! That could have turned out embarrassing!

[catbuds]

The bubblegum is the wide-wide leaves. I've had to do the same thing before. I took a photo of all the trim and it looked crazy but it wasn't too much, the plants still looked busy as there are tons of branches everywhere. Right?

Yeah! Did u raise the lights a little for some stretch, or just rely on pruning? Judging by the form of the plant, I'd guess they are also resinous as hell. ...?
-- Since I love the hell out of BBnugs, I've been reading up on every BB I could find in the seed banks & was a little suprised at the percentage of sativa in its genetics (can't remember % off hand). Looking at the color & trichs, I'd have guessed a LOT more indica lurking in those genes!

[catbuds]

Kind of a P.S. ..... since I just topped mine less than a week ago, branches aren't really very long yet, but I'm sure I'll be trimming off leaves again in a week or so, maybe even up untill flowering first starts.
-- About kush...... I'm not all that happy with what I've found in the seed banks. Pure hindu kush is a landrace & sister to afghani. PURE INDICAS. But what I've found in the s banks ISN'T pure kush & always seems to have some percentage of sativa (lemon K, strawberry K, & everybody else's kush). Why is it so damned hard to find a pure kush? Imo, this is a landrace that can't be improved upon! It can improve others, but others just dilute it. To each his own, I guess. :/