Shov, since they took a little longer to bud, I'm wondering if a compromise may be in order, like maybe trying 2wks of veg before 12/12? Just a thought. I'm always looking to tweek things here & there. Next time I take clones, I'm sticking one straight into 12/12. I usually give them about 1wk to start developing roots first, but since clones are chronologically the same age as the mother plant, it SHOULD flower just as fast. Unusually if I see I'll be out of smoke before my outdoor harvest, I'll take a couple of clones & put them in flower as soon as they root. If going into flower straight from the cut doesn't slow them down, that would give me a faster, shorter SOG. Be a great way of growing out a fast seed crop too, when you find an exceptional male.