Yuko â?¹ Pests

[catbuds]

I need something bigger than a cell phone screen to identify sm things, all I can see is a little bitty green worm, too sm. Eggs would have been laid on the underside of leaf. They hid, you seek. Trouble is, you usually don't see the eggs, & then you see the damage before you see the caterpillar. All you can do is start checking the undersides of foliage earlier next year. That's the problem with bugs & diseases, when things are going great, something new & different comes among & takes you by surprise.
& yeah, what Ranger said. You don't want to over look any late lurkers. Insecticides won't do you much good. The moths fly in, lay their eggs & take off. Systemics won't kill the 'pillers untill they eat the plant. Most insecticides won't kill 'pillers by contact, they usually have to ingest their poisons. Hey, chickens love 'em. You could always get a couple 'yard birds'! That's why mom & dad always had the garden by the chicken coop, & they fertilize as they go!
~~~~~~~~PEACE!~~~~~~~~

[tlranger]

I'm coming back out of concern, cut worm's are a different critter, and they invade from surroundings, most come in by land migrating from plant to plant, but have seen drop from plant above(example from tree above), most worms are there to feast, but all these do is chew through the stem and Denude the plant. With invasion possible I'm going to beg forgiveness, the diatomaceous earth may have helped, and I made light of it.:asskick:

[lipps]

Watch moisture around that shit because it has concentrated mold spores in it. We have tomato hornworms that look like that but they have a horn evil bastards destroy a tomato plant in short order. Look under the leaves for eggs and check with a garden center to see if the have predatory wasps that kill the eggs. .

[Esteban1]

Thanks bro, heavy azz rains last night..... Dealing with saggy bushes & tying them back up! Nice 24 hours eh?

[Esteban1]

I do! Don't get me wrong, there's a roll for all creatures big & small But they are frigg'n maddening! So, it rained like a mofo all night & did some tie ups this a.m. Upon daily inspection noticed a few things & voila..... Furry little caterpillars & a few eggs, yes.... Eggs (small as all heck) & with my fubar vision everything looks the same that close up. Like 2 wormies, 2 eggs & a another infiltrated flower..............& partridge in a pear tree. As much as I wanna spray with neem, worried that it will damage flowers?? Shovel, am I correct cuz saw many posts discouraging this?

[tlranger]

Haven fun yet, It's always fun till somebody gets hurt!!

Sorry but I'm still asking questions - furry?, color at stages differ, eating habit(like a horn worm?), this seems late for egg hatch-but then tiny tiny worms, size?

Sorry about ramble, got to get ready for wedding, check later.

[Esteban1]

Ranger, picked a few more smaller worms & yea they were "small & furry" & the eggs were obv small clear outer with a small black yolk. Any ideas? Peace

[catbuds]

I haven't seen a cut worm since I left W.V. But we do have unusually heavy populations of crow, blackbirds & starlings. They feed on shit like that. I remember my dad dusting our gardens with DE, sevin dust & lime. NOTHING survived that. I haven't seen sevin in years, but maybe you can find a substitute in a farm supply store. & seriously, 'yard birds' FEAST on any & all worms. Our stupid county ordinance won't allow even one pet chicken on less than an acre of land. I'm in the country, surrounded by farms, & with 7/10th of an acre, so no chickens allowed. Have to go up the road & bum a scoop of chicken crap for my compost. Big Brother wins again. I hate to advise anybody to use chems & toxions, but if you have cutworms? The predatory wasps are a good idea, but if cutworms are there & active, the wasps will have no effect on the worms that are doing the damage now, as they work by laying their eggs in the eggs of the cutworm, but by all means consider them as future prevention. One thing I haven't seen anybody mention.. ok, the cabbage worm is the larva of the cabbage butterfly/moth. Little white butterfly/moth that is active in the day. From what does the cutworm come? Nocturnal or day creature? Find this out for future reference & you'll be able to stop them before they start. Go online to the US agriculture dept. They have re ports & pics. There you will find your answers, we're all just poking around in the dark. Best of luck with this my friend. I have hope for your ladies.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PEACE!~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Esteban1]

Yut, while digging around the back end of one plant found yet another infected flower ask well as 1 bud just rotted out from weather. These are small & green as shown in yesterday's post. They leave behind their excrement too. Also noticing my indica girlies are def ripening & thinking 'bout chopping 'em down soon!

[Esteban1]

Between pests & flower rot it's been fairly mind boggling. Here is a shot of the leaf damage. Again, this is a small furry like caterpillar.



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