hi all again, here are those pics i promised..... i managed to save ten plants, i have another couple of real sad looking buggers, aint got the heart to chop em up, so i have give em a helping hand growing them on top of a compost heap, if they pick up then i will pot em up, i was realy gutted when they went hermie on me, it took a lot of constant attension to get them back, every 2/3 hours plucking off any male gender seems to have done it, aint seen to many male ball bags hanging on em for the last two days, there is still a little hermie in em, but nothing bad, you can see clearly the mass of single leaflets, i do get a lot of single leaflets on the top of my plants but this is normaly around finishing time, i am hoping this is just becourse of the light cycle confusion, they are still trying to produce female flower, the bud that they had grown indoors is still there, all the male gender apeared at different nodes, so it was quite easy to spot and remove, i have now got to wait till they finish around end of sept, they have got to finish then realy as our weather gets too unpredictable any time latter, i have a green house and as you can see i will keep some in there, i have to keep all windows and doors open becourse of the heat, i will get probs with insects i know, but i should be able to conrol some of it with stick bug tape, i also have a totaly organic spray i can use if things get bad, the worst probs i will get will be caterpillers, man they love this stuff, they fly in as butterflies and some how end jup as caterpillers in the bud, its very difficult to see, i only normaly find them after they have hached out and started to munch there way through my best buds, i will pay perticular intrest in looking for these little buggers as i know only to well the damage they can course. sorry for not replying personly to all of you, i have reasonatly smoked a big fatty and its nocked me on my arse again, i will get back when i come down a little ....... peace ....... happy ......