Thanx for the info m8, more or less what i expected, tho i suppose just didnt wana believe after 8-9 weeks niiicely vegging lol. I have 1 more plant which is bout 5 weeks so will b keeping a close eye incase the others a male. Never brought a plant full cycle yet due to work commitments etc but managed to veg plenty bagseed the last 2 year, experimenting as you do n they truly r an amazing plant to watch grow, n ive tried a few things an must say i love the lst'ing side of things...anyway thanx again will defo try get some pics up tmrw, Peace