Quote Originally Posted by hickory
Thanks, Ecupirate87. I'm beginning to feel the same way, but I'll elaborate on that in another post here in a sec.

For now, question for BURNT: I've done a lot of reading today but this statement from you still throws me: "even though their cutoffs numerically differ, a 50 ng assay screen is functionally equivalent to the 15 ng GC/MS."

Not sure I follow since I thought ng's were the unit of measurement that a test looked for, ie, if you're taking a 15ng test then you need to be at 14 or less to avoid detection, whereas if you're taking a 50ng test, you only need to be at 49ng's to avoid a positive. Is that not the case? Those two seem very different to me and my fear is that even as I test at home over and over and get negatives, that it may be only because I'm somewhere between 15-49 ng's (ie, not truly "clean"). And if that's the case, the wrong kinda test -- one testing down to 15ng's would blow me out of the water, right?

Seems like your saying it's standard for initial screens (aka: assay screen) to test only to detect > 50ng's and only if you fail that do they look harder and test to 15 ng's via the GC/MS but that other than that, both tests are functionally/procedurally the same?
For me back in 2006 when I failed the test, I was 45ng and the cut off was 15ng. I would say with almost complete certainty that there is a big difference.
If you decide to sub as I did, heat up the pee in a plastic baggy in boiling water before transferring it into a 1 or 2oz shampoo bottle (plastic baggies are too noisy, trust me I tried to practice with them!) and crotch it...or I dunno what the male term for that is but you know, tuck it behind your sack or whatever. Remember they are standing outside the door, and you are supposed to start peeing and then put the container under you. What I did, was I only had to pee a little, so I peed a little, poured my sub in, and then let a bit more trickle into the toilet for realistic emphasis. Two days now and no call back. When I failed Quest in 2006, I got a call the very next day. Best of luck to the both of you!
Anonymous1987 Reviewed by Anonymous1987 on . To sub or not to sub? I have until 5pm on monday to piss for a new job. By that time, ill be 44 days clean. Im 5'9 225, not much working out lately. Its a test at quest.. Just tested myself,(pic attached) and have produced a faint line. Not my first void, but i only had a cup of water to drink today. I dont mind subbing, and have been practicing a LOT. My friend doesnt do any type of drugs. Im considering subbing just for peace of mind. I was producing ghost lines with my first void of the day a week ago. Rating: 5