To sub or not to sub?

[Ecupirate87]

I have until 5pm on monday to piss for a new job. By that time, ill be 44 days clean.

Im 5'9 225, not much working out lately.

Its a test at quest.. Just tested myself,(pic attached) and have produced a faint line. Not my first void, but i only had a cup of water to drink today.

I dont mind subbing, and have been practicing a LOT. My friend doesnt do any type of drugs. Im considering subbing just for peace of mind. I was producing ghost lines with my first void of the day a week ago.

Should I just drink a 32 oz gatorade the day of the test and go in after ive voided 3-4 times, or should I just say screw it and go sub today?

And if i do sub, if the temp goes to like 101 or 102 in the specimen cup, will the temp strip go down as the temp does? Logic says yes, but the search function has mixed responses.

Ecupirate87 Reviewed by Ecupirate87 on 09-04-2013. To sub or not to sub? I have until 5pm on monday to piss for a new job. By that time, ill be 44 days clean. Im 5'9 225, not much working out lately. Its a test at quest.. Just tested myself,(pic attached) and have produced a faint line. Not my first void, but i only had a cup of water to drink today. I dont mind subbing, and have been practicing a LOT. My friend doesnt do any type of drugs. Im considering subbing just for peace of mind. I was producing ghost lines with my first void of the day a week ago. Rating: 5

[Ecupirate87]

Can somebody just tell me if the temperature strip can be manipulated? I've been practicing and the temp has been as high as 99.8. If it goes over 100 inside the specimen cup, could i cool it off and have the dot appear under 98,96 etc?? Please?

[Burnt Toast]

Can somebody just tell me if the temperature strip can be manipulated?

If it goes over 100 inside the specimen cup, could i cool it off and have the dot appear under 98,96 etc?? Please?

Why not practice (with warmed water in place of urine) and see? You'll have the answers to both of your questions there and then.

[Ecupirate87]

Why not practice (with warmed water in place of urine) and see? You'll have the answers to both of your questions there and then.

I have been practicing. Im confident I can sub and get it done quickly and quietly, and im not worried about the temp being too low. Im worried about the temp being over 100. Thats why my only remaining question is about the temp strip from the lab. If its 100 or over, and the dot is not shown, or showing at 100, does that dot move as the temp lowers? If so, i feel confident. Basically, does that dot lock the highest temp or move as the temp moves?

Ive looked at the search function and have seen mixed responses. I have my test tomorrow at Quest. Will post my experience after im done.

[Burnt Toast]

Nope. No lockup. The indicator on the temp strip changes with the temperature. By sticking the sub container (with temp strip affixed) in, lets say a fridge for a few seconds, you'll see what I mean.

[Ecupirate87]

Nope. No lockup. The indicator on the temp strip changes with the temperature. By sticking the sub container (with temp strip affixed) in, lets say a fridge for a few seconds, you'll see what I mean.

Thanks brother. Im using my buddies urine and i Looked everywhereeee for temp strips and cant find any. Subbing seems easier now. I'll post the story tomorrow

[Burnt Toast]

Thanks brother. Im using my buddies urine and i Looked everywhereeee for temp strips and cant find any.

Check your local chain pharmacy store for baby forehead thermometer strips (stick-on type). These strips are identical to the temp strips used at the collection facility.

BTW, you do need to worry about the temp being too low. More so than being too high. Because you can always cool down an overheated sample in a pinch. Its much more difficult to heat up a too-cool sample on the fly.

[Ecupirate87]

Check your local chain pharmacy store for baby forehead thermometer strips (stick-on type). These strips are identical to the temp strips used at the collection facility.

BTW, you do need to worry about the temp being too low. More so than being too high. Because you can always cool down an overheated sample in a pinch. Its much more difficult to heat up a too-cool sample on the fly.

Ive checked 3 walgreens, walmart, food lion, target, and the pet store (reptile tanks). All i found were stickers with cartoons on them, but the temp starts at 99.

Im going to heat the urine to 100 a block from the lab, attach a heating pad, crotch it with boxer briefs, boxers over it, and jeans. I've practiced for like 5 days. Sometimes sitting on the couch, walking around, etc. sometimes going out and running errands.

Ive checked in increments of 10,20,30,45,60 min. I simulate warming up the specimen cup by tucking it under my armpit as you suggested, pouring it out quietly, waiting 10-20 seconds, then checkin it with a thermometer. Every time it has read between 96-99.5. I dont see it going under 90, but i can see it going over 100. Thats why I inquired about the temp strip in the cup i will be turning in. But you laid those concerns to rest as the strip fluctuates with the temp.

Do i pretty much have it covered or am I missing something? Thanks!!

[Ecupirate87]

Well guys, here's my story. Quest closed at 3 today so i went to my buddies house at 1. It took him until 230!!! He sat there and drank a whole gallon of water just to squeeze out 3 oz. No chance of it being diluted as it was bright yellow. Got to the lab at 235 with my ID and form in hand. Waited for about 10 min.. Very nice lady. Apologized for coming in so late but she was very friendly.

In the room, nothing to it. Pulled it out, heating pad and all. Poured it in, dumped out the rest. 98 degrees. She asked for 60ml. Split it into two tubes, i initialed and signed a few places. Didn't even look at the boxes

It was very simple, but i still wont relax completely until i hear back.

Thanks burnt! You da man!

[Burnt Toast]

He sat there and drank a whole gallon of water just to squeeze out 3 oz. No chance of it being diluted as it was bright yellow.

Just because a urine sample has color to it doesnt mean it has no chance of being diluted. Samples with a nice yellow color to them can still register an unsatisfactory S/G and creatinine level.