Oh great, apparently we're growing now!

[Buggy]

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Buggy Reviewed by Buggy on 09-12-2013. Oh great, apparently we're growing now! Hi all! I'm a total newbie at this whole thing. And, I'm not even going to be using! We're looking into the details of getting my husband a medical use licence in our state, and while on vacation out of state he tried pot to see if it worked for his pain. It was GREAT. His pain is usually 8/9/10 but the pot brought it to nearly NOTHING! WOOT! Nothing we've tried from the pharmacy worked even a third as well! :D BTW, he's had pain from scoliosis and then a spinal fusion surgery 20 years ago, but Rating: 5

[Buggy]

Last post! Just trying to keep a record of the best photos each week for sexing clues. I'll have less next week for SURE. Likely less tomorrow!

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Let me know your thoughts. Any suspected males are gonna be separated after tomorrow I think so I have time to make up my mind for whether or not I believe they are male or not. They won't be killed for awhile - I'll still be checking them out to be sure before they are axed!

(note - fairly sure 9 and 10 are males so far, but those are the only ones I'm more than 50% sure on so far)

[Shovelhandle]

I hate Monsanto like poison (Miracle Grow, Scott). Good luck with your grow though.

[catbuds]

Buggy you're doing great. Its a plant, you're a gardener, the growing part will be easy. Sexing isn't as dificult as it seems, once they fully declare their sex, you'll see how easy it is to tell difference. The next step that will be different from other plants is judging ripeness & when to harvest. Then drying/curing. If you've ever cured tobacco, you're half way there. The cool part is, you have a green thumb, mj's light (except the photoperiod to fruit is reversed), water, nutrition requirements aren't all that much different from tomatoes. Just keep posting pics & reports & any of us old heads will be more than glad to advise on ripeness, harvest & curing. Some of these youngens approach this like its a complicated, expensive endeavor. Don't believe it. You have two of the best here already advising you, stick with them, they know their shit & they're great guys too. If tlranger replys to your post, take heed to him too, he's right on par with the other 2. I just wanted to reassure you that you're doing great, & with the advisors you have, you can't go wrong. Happy gardening hon. Its always great to see another girl here! BTW cannabis-seeds is a girl too. Just saying.

[Esteban1]

They do look like males. Keep up the good wor!

[Buggy]

Ok, I went through all the plants and did a water flush to clean out any old water and old ferts. Also washed off all the neem from the outside of the pots so it didn't build up.

And... most seem to be boys. No for-sure females either. Crap.

What are everyone's favorite ideas for using the boys? (other than fire wood?) Hubby wants to smoke them, but knows there's little THC in them. He also wants to put one outside for a bit to allow us to collect some pollen to make seeds in the future. My thought is lots of butter or hash. Never did either of those of course before, so... Yep, gotta do a lot of reading.

Now for pics to keep up the records.

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Two more sets... Give me a minute...

[Buggy]

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[Buggy]

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so... 8 that have some chance of being female (SOME)... 11 can be chopped? Will be deciding soon. *sigh* Even with 4 plants, we should likely have enough medicine to last my husband until we can have more produced. *sigh*

[catbuds]

Males are quicker to declare sex than females (usually), so the ones that haven't said a word are probably girls. You can increase your chance of females with ethylene gas. Its easy to do this old school. Just place bowls of ripening fruit around. Bananas & peaches ripen fast & therfore put out a higher concentration of ethelene than say apples. Keep an eye peeled for those damned little fruit flys! Put pest strips (hanging) in your grow space, if they still make them. I do this the same time I put them in 12/12. The youngens with their high tech ways would have you going to great expenses with filled tanks of manufactured gas & emitters, but not necessary. Your biggest expense my way might be eliminating fruit flys. I've never had the need to try & 'turn' males to females, but it might be worth the try since you have so many males.
You could let your fastest male mature, then collect & save the pollen in something small, like a 35mm film canister or sm baby food jar & store in the freezer. Unless one of the guys have an idea what to do with them, I personally would turn them into compost. You could dry & smoke the leaves & get somewhat of a buzz, but I can't stand the taste. Up to & your guy.
Peace!

P.S. you can use your neem oil on those pesky little fruit flys. Prevention & cure! ;-)

[Buggy]

Thanks Catbuds! Hadn't heard about M2F idea before. Ethelene uses will be my next search for info.


Shopping list: Bananas - some ripe, some semi (must have some to snack on later!)
more sticky traps
sand to keep other eggs laid (have a cloud of the ijit gnats right now)

Recently read of some who make the males into butter - not sure if he wants any medibles or just smokables. We'll see. But I don't want to keep so much space used just for dang useless boys. They will get culled or moved tomorrow.


EDIT:
Found this on another site (bing search), which was taken from a plant site:
Functions of Ethylene
Ethylene is known to affect the following plant processes (Davies, 1995; Mauseth, 1991; Raven, 1992; Salisbury and Ross, 1992):

â?¢Stimulates the release of dormancy.

â?¢Stimulates shoot and root growth and differentiation (triple response)

â?¢May have a role in adventitious root formation.

â?¢Stimulates leaf and fruit abscission.

â?¢Stimulates Bromiliad flower induction.

â?¢Induction of femaleness in dioecious flowers.

â?¢Stimulates flower opening.

â?¢Stimulates flower and leaf senescence.

â?¢Stimulates fruit ripening.

Ethylene has been found not harmful or toxic to humans in the concentrations found in ripening rooms.
In fact, ethylene was used medically as a anesthetic in concentrations significantly greater than that found in a ripening room. However, ethylene is often targeted as the reason for difficulty in breathing in ripening rooms; what can affect some people is usually either:
a) Carbon Dioxide (CO2,) levels: CO2, is produced by the ripening fruit in the room and levels increase over time, or
b) Oxygen levels: The oxygen in the room when loaded is taken in by the ripening fruit. This sometimes will make breathing in a ripening room difficult. The increased CO2, and decreased oxygen levels are the main reasons for venting the ripening room.


So I may have been wrong in what I said before.

Now here's the kicker, 5 grams of ethylene costs roughly $600 USD.




(thus, will be doing this as well for future grows! And tomorrow we'll be getting bananas.)

Catbuds: Do you have fruit around the entire time of blooming, or just the first while until showing strongly female? How affective is it in your opinion (what are your general m:f ratios? Thanks!