So all your outdoor is harvested now, am I right? We still haven't had a frost yet. Having foggy nights a lot though. Nice high humidity. Perfect conditions for bud mould for thoes with late budding plants. Dont know why some of the guys around here keep insisting on growing those varities. There's so many nice earlier strains they could go with. I say leave those late varieties to those who live in zones 8-10 & quit stressing every time you hear the word FROST! I'm really curious about your outdoor european, especially now that you're telling us how sticky it is. My outdoor growing conditions are far from perfect. To hide my grow, it has to be out where its partially wooded, gets morning & evening shade with dappled sun mid afternoon. Most of the indicas I grow don't mind going sunless most of the day, as long as the light is bright & they get a little sun. How would the europeans do with that kind of light? Now that the the thieving brothers are in jail, I'm looking for something bigger & beefier than the short bushy indica hybrids I've been going with the last 15 yrs or so. The ones I keep in nursery pots (1-1 1/2gal pots), I can grow in full sun, just hidden among flowers (&spearmint) with similar leaves....but anything I grow big would have to be out under the trees. I think I posted that the brothers stole the last of my seed stock, so since I'll be starting over from scratch, thought I'd try new strains. Since I've already decided my winter indoor strains, now I'm thinking about next springs outdoor grow. Remember I posted I haven't changed my strains in around 25-30 years, so I could use your advice here. Hoping your european will do in partial shade, little sun. What do you think?~~~PEACE!~~~