Ok. The kickass one I bred back in the 80's I kept goin till the thieft I called Big Bertha. She did well even in the woods, bright shade, no direct sun. Here's her genetics.... #1 skunk X northern lights male to big bud. Then a male from that breeding that seemed the most northern lights (to keep it smaller & earlier) bred back to big bud clone. Then from this second generation, I chose a female most like big bud, & the male most like skunk & northern lights. Ok now, this third gen was the hardest to choose. Out of over 100 plants to choose from (yeah, UGH!), I was looking for these traits; the bud size of big bud, size & earliness & heavy trichrome of NL, & the skunkiness of skunk & of course the strong stem. From your own experience, you know I had about 50% throw backs more resembling one of the three, so I collected the pollen from the males that most resembled a more ballanced blend of the three, hand pollenated lower buds of females also of a ballanced blend. Three more gens, & I had a stabilized strain. This shit kicked ass. I got exactly what I was breeding for. A total of 6 yrs to breed, then stabilize, so you know how pissed I was when the thieves got the whole crop & me with NO SEEDS left of all this work. Most of the seeds I had moulded in storage, so I had planted all I had left & was counting on the resulting seeds of that crop. I'd started this in '83 or '84 & that's all I grew untill this summer when the thieves hit me. Damned this is longer than I intended, but the moral to this genetic story is.... maybe your outdoor euro would do well under my trees too? Or maybe you'd know a strain of similar genetics? Miss my big bertha. I could keep her as sm as I wanted (potted & started late) or grow her as big as she wanted (started early & planted in open ground under my trees). Great indoors or outdoors. Versatile as hell. I think I'm gonna cry. ~~~PEACE!~~~