Quote Originally Posted by BKABQ
Hey everyone!

Love the forums here!
I was a poster under the grow sections (under a diiferent name) a while back when I had the facilities to do that and always got wonderful and though provoking advice.

Kinda new to the drug testing forum and I have a few questions.

I've been doing some research on the internet for the DOT physical exam and drug testing (DT) process and I'm having some confusion about just how many samples are taken.
I've read that during the physical exam part they'll need a sample for testing of blood sugars and a few other non-drug related checks and then they'll possibly need another sample for the DT part????
I've also read posts on here that state only one sample was given but separated into two parts, possibly one part for the drug test and one for the other tests?
So I'm not really sure.

What's the real deal?
This deal here is about as real as it gets:

Subpart E - Urine Specimen Collections

§ 40.71 How does the collector prepare the specimens?


(a) All collections under DOT agency drug testing regulations must be split specimen collections.

(b) As the collector, you must take the following steps, in order, after the employee brings the urine specimen to you. You must take these steps in the presence of the employee.

(1) Check the box on the CCF (Step 2) indicating that this was a split specimen collection.

(2) You, not the employee, must first pour at least 30 mL of urine from the collection container into one specimen bottle, to be used for the primary specimen.

(3) You, not the employee, must then pour at least 15 mL of urine from the collection container into the second specimen bottle to be used for the split specimen.

(4) You, not the employee, must place and secure (i.e., tighten or snap) the lids/caps on the bottles.

(5) You, not the employee, must seal the bottles by placing the tamper-evident bottle seals over the bottle caps/lids and down the sides of the bottles.

(6) You, not the employee, must then write the date on the tamper-evident bottle seals.

(7) You must then ensure that the employee initials the tamper-evident bottle seals for the purpose of certifying that the bottles contain the specimens he or she provided. If the employee fails or refuses to do so, you must note this in the ??Remarks? line of the CCF (Step 2) and complete the collection process.

(8) You must discard any urine left over in the collection container after both specimen bottles have been appropriately filled and sealed. There is one exception to this requirement: you may use excess urine to conduct clinical tests (e.g., protein, glucose) if the collection was conducted in conjunction with a physical examination required by a DOT agency regulation. Neither you nor anyone else may conduct further testing (such as adulteration testing) on this excess urine and the employee has no legal right to demand that the excess urine be turned over to the employee.

[65 FR 79526, Dec. 19, 2000, as amended at 66 FR 41951, Aug. 9, 2001]

Source:DOT Rule 49 CFR Part 40 Section 40.71 | Department of Transportation

Quote Originally Posted by BKABQ
Are there any 5-10 day detox systems that i could use, ...besides the silly foot detox ...lol, that actually work?
I'm not looking for dillutions, as I don't trust them, just something to help my body inners get clean, or cleaner.
Whenever you use those "cleaners" or "detox systems", you are diluting. All of those products work via the principle of dilution. That means they "work" because of the water that youre required by the instructions to drink with them. They do not rid the body of THC, as the sales pitches would like the consumer to believe. They are nothing but a big scam to capitalize on the so-called "war on drugs" by preying upon the uninformed and credulous and taking their cash. You can spend up to $250 on a magic elixir, and accomplish nothing different than what can be accomplished using just water and vitamin B2.

There is no product that can rid the body of THC. The only proven way to permanently rid the body of THC is time and fat-burning exercise.