Crystal, in reference to post #94. I acquired my hort degree @ U of De because of my love for plants (& all things of nature). What did I learn? How to kill plants, soil, earthworms, birds etc, etc, with chemicals. Chem nutes, chem herbicides, chem pesticides, chems, chems, chems. The message seemed to be, 'Hey! If Cat loves it, lets kill it!' I did acquire a little good info. How to identify pest & disaese & a bunch of latin words, which I've since forgotten (need to first master english! LOL!). It got my foot in the door at the biggest nursery in a 5 state range at the management level & a really nice paycheck. Even got me into Longwood Gardens untill my car blew up (2 hr drive. Orchid & carnivorous house). But I swear it had nothing to do with a love of plants. Know exactly what you guys mean about 'master gardeners'! At least now a days they do teach organics too. Wasn't like that when I went. I butted heads with the chem lovers big time! :wtf: