I'm not saying that people can just sit with plants and watch them and learn to be adept growers. That would take a lifetime if not longer. Sure you use all your resources, read books and go to people more knowledgeable than you... that should be common sense. But I don't care how much information you have if you don't question it and just accept it as its given to you, it means nothing. The one thing common among all great growers that I know is that they aren't passive, they are very involved with what they do and they question everything as they go along. So I see what you're saying.. but getting good help only goes so far especially when you are out in the field and have to do things then and there and practically based on what you have or can attain. There are plenty things I'm dealing with now that I'm getting through because I use my resources and I THINK.. "getting good help" ain't going to do much when there are no straightforward answers or solutions for your complex problems.