This was a very interesting post lookinout. Thank you for taking the time to relate your experience, and congratulations on the job.

The thing I wonder about is that sign you observed regarding testing for synthetic urine. Obviously, any synth users, upon seeing that sign, would experience instant buzz-kill. The rhetorical questionsi would ask -rhetorical because i realize you have no way of knowing - is:

1. Really? Because synth is no secret to them, for the price of a sign alone they have created a deterrent. Kind of like where I live. They put up fake police lights on the side of the highway, which can be seen for miles around. Everybody slows down. Of course, let's assume that they do.

2. Now, how do they test for it? Elsewhere on this site, there is an excellent link to the actual DOT regulations. Those regulations indicate clearly what IS to be included...those being creatinine, specific gravity requirement, PH, and Uric acid. There should be no more and no less tested, and since QF is well established to provide all these elements, I wonder how the lab would know? Anybody have any knowledge her on the subject which is based on fact and not guesses and hearsay?

I don't have the luxury having the time to find a clean friend. In fact, because of the nature of my work, i usually can guesstimate when, at the earliest, i might be tested. It is not uncommon for me to have at least a week, typically more, after a very light smoking episode. I usually don't have more than 3 hits in a night, rarely for more than 3 or 4 nights in a row - then, my minimum 7 day/usually more break. I maybe smoke like that 4 or 5 times in a year.

I self-test before i'm in the danger zone, and told myself i'd use sick days if i enter the danger zone...until i'm clean.

The thing that gets me though is the "faintness" of the test line. The test says if it's a line, any line, no matter how faint, it's negative. But i'm paranoid about that issue alone. So, i recently obtained QF, with Uric Acid. I spoke to the people at detoxforless, and they seemed confident that it could not fail a "test for synthetic urine". Hope their right...and based on the experience of many members here, passing is the norm.

Further, i will be testing my QF with an adulterant test kit (available on amazon). These test for all those required elements i mentioned (specific gracity, PH, creatinine, uric acid, etc). Basically, i'm doing my own independent adulterant test, which i doubt is much less sophisticated than the labs. More sophisticated means more cost, and less bucks the labs make...and thats what it's all about typically.

This is such BS. It's legal to drink alcohol and have a BAC up to .04 and be legal in my job. This means people can get tanked the night before and be ok the next day. We get our privacy invaded for something we did a week or more ago, show up for work stone-cold sober, and have to worry about all this rigamarole.

Anyway, comments from anyone who has knowledge of synthetic urine testing at the labs....who? How? Does good quality synth meet the requirement?

...and best wishes in law school lookinout! :thumbsup: