Seeds in Organic Coco bed possible?

[low_rdr]

Turkey poo is LOADED with HOT nitrogen and needs to compost before being used. Raw turkey poo is no good. This could be why your so hot. Also, why feathers? Remember, your eventually going to smoke this. I can't honestly for the life of me think of one good reason to use feathers in a tiny grow. Perlite, sure, wood chips, maybe, feathers? What purpose do the feathers serve?

If there is a nutritional purpose to feathers, someone tell me!!!!

[SOG420]

.. What purpose do the feathers serve?

If there is a nutritional purpose to feathers, someone tell me!!!!

Honestly I have no idea the purpose of the feathers but the ingredients of this mix on burpee's website are listed - Burpee Organic Seed Starting Mix (95% coconut fiber,perlite, humates and fertilizer derived from aerobically composted turkey litter and hydrolyzed feather meal) .06-.03-.03.

I live in an area where the closet grow shop is 2.5 hrs away so the coco I found at lowes was the option I choose. Thanks for ur input

[low_rdr]

hahahaha

Okay, the turkey scat their using is composted, not raw.
Feathermeal is ground up feathers and bird remains (not just feathers) giving off a good slow release source of nitrogen. I learned this today, but doesn't sound tasty. Also reports that it smells like dead bird when watered, but quickly dissipates All I have to say is EWWWWWWWW :wtf: I'm not smoking that, lol!

6-3-3 Shouldn't be causing any issues though, and should be good for the first 3-4 weeks of veg, unless your going to go straight into 12-12, then you might want to boost your potassium a little.

As for the molasses, make sure you start it slow the 2nd week of flower, then increase to 1tsp per gallon by week 6.
You asked what a good extra boost of nitrogen would be thats organic - I can't share my secret, because it is of course, mine. However, there are plenty of companies out there like scotts (miracle grow) that produce fermented sugar beet molasses, this is terribly high in nitrogen. Now, the true question here is if the fermintation process is actually organic, I'll let you ponder that one.

I'm gonna finish my hash.

[Skihigh]

It's kind of a case of the shits tryin' to grow in a small country town, ain't it.
Might wanna think about sort of a flush to help get some of the ferts out of the grow medium...(If you haven't already)...Might be a dab hot for seedlings.
Can you imagine what it would be like tryin' to get all the feathers out of a bunch of turkey shit? Yuk....What job that would be!!!

[SOG420]

Any body have an opinion as to the ph recommended for when I do flush this plant later today. It is mostly coco coir but I have the medium layered as follows
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XXXXXX -small hydroton
oXoXoX - 50% hydroton / 50 % coco based seedling Mix
OOOOO - 100 % Coco Based Seedling Mix
OOOOO
oXoXoX -75 % coco / 25% hydroton mix
XXXXX - 100% hydroton
XXXXX

[low_rdr]

heh... are you growing in a sealed glass jar?

[SOG420]

haha no its a plastic tea pitcher in which i removed to spout for drainage. It was an attempt at a "Hempy" Style grow. I 'm thinking of placing a cover on the outside to encourage root growth.

[tlranger]

Can you imagine what it would be like tryin' to get all the feathers out of a bunch of turkey shit? Yuk....What job that would be!!!

My money says that's why they are there, get rid of trash, wonder what else is there?

[low_rdr]

I'd like to find out why your running so hot. Maybe skip the aquarium water for a round and test the runoff? Aren't most aquariums at 6.2 with constant filtering? I'm not sure how this would effect anything, but I don't have experience with aquarium water, or alfalfa meal - You are of course testing the PH after you add your nutrients, right?

I know that sounds like a silly question, but giong from a ph of 6 to a ph of 8, either means something is seriously wrong with your soil, or you have the magic radiation water. And if you've got an aquarium, I'm doubting your water is radioactive, makes me think of the soil. If your in the middle of BFE and got your soil from a home improvement store, was it in the outdoor section of the home improvement store?

Why do I ask? Because if there is a chance the soil got wet while it was in the bag, it starts to produce all sorts of little nasties, from the mold, which also causes nutes to ferment. This could cause a rapid change in PH.

Test the soil.

[SOG420]

I plan on discontinuing the aquarium water immediately. I just did a little experiment. I tested 4 pH sources just for reference to try and figure this out.
Aquarium water pH was 6.5
Tap Water was 8.2 or 8.3
Alfalfa meal brewed for 5 min brought pH from 8.2 to 6.4
Organic Tea ph is 5.8

My theory is that the alfalfa mixed in with coco as well is influencing pH and the organic tea is leaving deposits that are driving the soil pH down.
So maybe not radioactive soil after all:>
Please inform me if this is incorrect. My plan right now is to flush entire medium. Not sure if the recommended 5.8-6.2 for coco is the correct range to shoot for.
Thanks for ur help figuring this out