Will This Make The Best Hash Oil Available?

[Marzfisch64]

I need to know if, in a theoretical world, where it was legal to do, could one grind herb finely and mix into a flask of D-Limonene and vacuum distill the THC out of this Slurry? So long as you are able to do this successfully, from my understanding is this will produce a fine pristine 'Hash Oil' that will have a high THC content, and little or no Chlorophyll Does all this sound correct? Do you agree this will produce a pristine Hash Oil that will contain high amounts of THC.

'PureGold Hash Oil' I believe is made by this exact method. They claim their oil is around 75% THC, and less than 8% of their product is unwanted pollutants. They said their oil also contains around 5% D-Limonene. They claim all 90% is cannabinoids. They also claim it has NO chlorophyll and is good for patients with sensitive immune systems.

Quoted from other online source:
"74.45% THC, 2.91% CBD, 2.76% CBN, 12.11% other cannabinoids. Inactive ingredients are 5% Limomene, and 2.77% inert compounds. Apparently it isn't an oil, but consists of the pure cannabinoids that have been extracted from hash oil. It says it is safe for people with suppressed immune systems, because there is no plant matter."

So I'm thinking that this relatively cheap ($500 give or take) lab setup will produce one of the purest, least wasteful hash oils out there. Not 100% Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol, but I have a feeling this would be an incredible oil. Anyone have any input on this possible technique?

Marzfisch64 Reviewed by Marzfisch64 on 04-23-2013. Will This Make The Best Hash Oil Available? I need to know if, in a theoretical world, where it was legal to do, could one grind herb finely and mix into a flask of D-Limonene and vacuum distill the THC out of this Slurry? So long as you are able to do this successfully, from my understanding is this will produce a fine pristine 'Hash Oil' that will have a high THC content, and little or no Chlorophyll Does all this sound correct? Do you agree this will produce a pristine Hash Oil that will contain high amounts of THC. 'PureGold Rating: 5

[Weezard]

Got a little input for ya'll.

Limonene?
Not it!

Here's why I say that.
It is a class 3 carcinogen so I'd want to boil it off completely.

Without using a vacuum pump, that will be a problem.
d-limonene boils at 177 ℃. at 1 atmosphere.
That's north of 300 ℉.
A real deal-breaker for me.
It would cook all the goodness out of my oil.
With a vacuum, the 5% residual is not acceptable to me.

As a medium for medibles, I think coconut oil, or hemp oil are much better choices.
They have a good Omega-3 ratio which potentiates healing.
That, and they are not classed as carcinogens.

Limonene got it's class-3 rating from induced renal cancer in rats.
The Wiki says that it has not caused cancer in humans.
I'm not keen to risk my kidneys to test a wiki statement.
That statement just proves that lobbyists have no conscience.

So, a good idea, but I'm gonna pass on it.

Aloha,
Weezard

[Marzfisch64]

*facepalm*

Dude... skip the wikis for info brother...

Quote:
"Clinical Summary
Derived from the peels of citrus fruits, D-limonene is used by patients to prevent and treat cancer and has been promoted as a treatment for gastroesophageal reflux. Following oral administration, D-limonene is rapidly metabolized to limonene-1,2-diol, perillic acid, dihydroperillic acid, and uroterpenol (1) (2) (3).
In vitro and animal studies suggest that D-limonene has anti-inflammatory (13), bactericidal (19) and anticancer effects (14) (16) (17) (18). It was also shown to enhance the activity of docetaxel against prostate cancer cells (15).
An epidemiological study reported an inverse relationship between citrus peel consumption and squamous cell carcinoma (4), but an early clinical trial in breast cancer patients failed to support the observations (5) (6).
Further research is necessary to determine if D-limonene has a role in the prevention or treatment of cancer."

D-limonene | Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center

Limonene and Cancer

Cancer chemoprevention and therapy by monoterpenes.

[Marzfisch64]

Got a little input for ya'll.

Limonene?
Not it!

Here's why I say that.
It is a class 3 carcinogen so I'd want to boil it off completely.

Without using a vacuum pump, that will be a problem.
d-limonene boils at 177 ℃. at 1 atmosphere.
That's north of 300 ℉.
A real deal-breaker for me.
It would cook all the goodness out of my oil.
With a vacuum, the 5% residual is not acceptable to me.

As a medium for medibles, I think coconut oil, or hemp oil are much better choices.
They have a good Omega-3 ratio which potentiates healing.
That, and they are not classed as carcinogens.

Limonene got it's class-3 rating from induced renal cancer in rats.
The Wiki says that it has not caused cancer in humans.

Also, you dont know the process of vacuum distillation obviously. The Limonene would be basicly completely left behind. and under correct vacuum, the THC will NOT be destroyed at that heat. You cant use coconut oil to vacuum distill freeking hash oil! thats like... plugging your tv into a steaming pile of poo. you could do it, but its definitely not going to do what you want.

Google Vacuum distillation and then come back and reply =)

[Weezard]

*Facepalm* right back atcha brah!

And never use Sloan Kettering either.
It says that on the very first page.

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I use wiki for their citations.
Which will get you some real information.

As much as I do want D-Limonene to be the perfect solvent.
Actual facts get in the way.

Toxicological Data on Ingredients:
DLimonene: ORAL (LD50): Acute: 4400 mg/kg [Rat]. 5600 mg/kg [Mouse]. DERMAL
(LD50): Acute: >5000 mg/kg [Rabbit].

Not terribly toxic, but read on!

Section 3: Hazards Identification
Potential Acute Health Effects:
Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant, sensitizer), of eye contact (irritant), of inhalation (lung irritant). Slightly hazardous in
case of skin contact (permeator), of ingestion.
Potential Chronic Health Effects:
CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: 3 (Not classifiable for human.) by IARC. MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. TERATOGENIC
EFFECTS: Not available. DEVELOPMENTAL TOXICITY: Not available.


Those "not available"'s are a big red flag!
Because rat data IS available and it's not good.

So, what else ya got?

Aloha,
Weezard

[Weezard]

"Also, you dont know the process of vacuum distillation obviously.

In this, you are incorrect.
I use Ethanol, and heat instead of vacuum because it allows me to easily reclaim the Ethanol for re-use.
I like to slip right into decarb from the purge.
It's efficient and allows me to monitor the process simply by watching the bubbles.

The Limonene would be basicly completely left behind.

Basically? Or completely?
Because basically, is simply not good enough for me.
I have a patient with a severely compromised immune system.

and under correct vacuum, the THC will NOT be destroyed at that heat.

Well, duh!
Vacuum filtration can be done at room temperature.

You cant use coconut oil to vacuum distill freeking hash oil! thats like... plugging your tv into a steaming pile of poo. you could do it, but its definitely not going to do what you want."

Sir, I recommended the coconut, and olive oils for medibles only, it's pretty tasty.
It is clearly not suitable for pure oil extraction.

(Aside: IMHO plugging my TV into a pile of poo would be a major upgrade!)

If you intend to debate this issue with me, I'm happy to oblige.
However, you need to work on your reading comprehension if it is to be a useful and informative debate.
Should you continue to misunderstand and make denigrating comments, I will disengage.

If you only bring supported facts, and I strive to do the same, together, we may come up with something worthwhile, yah?

Aloha,
Weezard

[pyeyed1]

so i guess the answer to the question was ...... NO.....mmmm

[low_rdr]

Correct. It will not make the best hash oil available.

[pyeyed1]

Correct. It will not make the best hash oil available.

out of curiosity ....if you please....
you might eloborate ...as to your prefered solvent...ethanol...isopropyl...acetone...other ?