Quote Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
Yep, I see the line. A faint line is still a negative.

Was this your first urination of the day?
Hello, I just registered today and posted in the greetings section. http://boards.cannabis.com/introduce...ying-high.html

I decided against starting a new thread since my topic is on faint lines, first voids, and using first void for DOT UA NUMBER 2, which follows a dil (-) result (not quoting) on test number 1, taken on 4/10.

I am 140 lbs at most, healthy diet in March but more take-out and less food in April, healthy workout in March but not April--have been in stasis. I doubt I am 140lbs right now.

I stopped smoking on March 31st and since then have taken 4 at-home tests--1 of the cup variation seen here and 3 of the same brand but the egg-shaped. I took them 4/6, 4/8, 4/13, and today 4/14. Thru wishful thinking I did not use first void for the first three tests. dumb. I passed the first three with faint lines and learned to despise line faintness and the lack of change after more and more clean days, despite the constant emphasis here on faint lines being (-).

Last night I got wise and decided I was a fool for my test-strategy and that I would take the 4th test with my first void, without drinking fluids first. I did not browse this board thoroughly enough because I missed all of your emphasis, Toast, on using the first void and thus minimizing variables.

I was at first dismayed to barely see a line on my egg-shaped test. It was significantly worse than my other faint lines. Yuck, I thought. If you asked me if I could barely see the line I would say "yes, I don't think there could be a fainter line" but if you asked me if I thought it was a "white, waxy line" I would say "no" and that I barely understand how it is possible to see a white waxy line on a white back-drop. With that being said at least one of my previous egg-shaped tests seemed to have more saturation to the point where the test-area looked more..wet, stained? grey? A google search of the test I refer to yields a question in their official FAQ that indicates a white waxy line is a prelim positive--that is why I mention. The instructions that come with the same test do not include this question, although the cup test I took 4/13 had far more extensive questions so there are at least two iterations of the product.

I took my first test already and used dilution method (bought a product that came with B pills, and more B pills separately -at the time of purchase I did not look carefully enough to see the pills that came with the drink were B pills). My pee was a lousy neon color and it was probably the 6th void of the day. I woke up at 7:30am and took the test at 1:00pm. Last week I was just nervous but confident I would not fail but now I look back and realize how stupid I was. With that said, I passed those two egg-shaped tests without using first void so I may have actually bought myself valuable time (of course I just spent way more money than I should have, and if I had cared more about creatine than color I might have been entirely successful with the dilution method).

The result was I have to take another test either Monday 4/15 or by close of business Tuesday 4/16. I already told them I would take one last Friday 4/12 if I had to (I found out the results that day) as part of the strategy to not appear suspicious, considering I found this out while at work (YUCK). Thus, I think that taking the test before work tomorrow is the best fit for the strategy.

My question: should I use the first void to guarantee no dillution? If so, is it still absolutely important to use mid-stream?

I did not use mid-stream of the first void because I wanted to minimize variables, and after 14 days of being clean wanted to believe I was good to go entirely.

If I do not use first void I know the color won't be as yellow, but I believe I have learned that color is not as important as creatine (creatinine?) and specific gravity, and therefore my initial result was no-good due to abnormal dilution. Would I be okay with using my 2nd, 3rd, whatever? I feel that I should worry about normal use of water on the day that I take the test since this is #2 I woke up this morning dehydrated and cracked a red bull but urinated minutes after. I don't think one day will make a difference, but the other option is taking the test Tuesday and not Monday. I don't like the suspicion there but maybe it isn't that suspicious, and definitely passing the test is more important than arousing suspicion. OMG I don't want to sub. I don't anticipate they will watch me because they didn't before but OMG I don't want to sub. I just wanted to be clean after so many days of not smoking : (