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[Indimaniac]

What kills me the most here mal, is the simple fact that on principle ingoing water should be very comparable to runoff, and if we are battling this rather than solving it we are essentially stunting growth over an extended period of time to the extent of the extremes!? That's why I get so finicky to hear a response on how to FIX, as yes we are treating the problem but u said since November I've been battling for almost two months that means first the stress is so high we are almost guaranteed to hermie with such extended periods of stress and two we are losing months of precious grow time that potentially cost a yield decrease of as much as 50+%!! I'd almost rather try thugs to fix it until I do at the risk of the plants and if they die empty sanitize test run until I have unquestionable environment then start fresh rather than finish out a crippled run with crap results and not be able to get back the time lost that was to end up starting over in the end anyhow ya know!!??

[Indimaniac]

Ok so I calibrated the blue lab, so it turns out Gen hyd. Ph drops(two different bottles) read the water ok actually pretty close to right on track with the blue lab but... I watered ALL the different soils I had with ph'd 8.7 distilled water with equilibrium, and guess what!! The Ph drops read 5.0 EVERYTIME!! but the blue lab is ranging between 6.4-7.0 right on the money now being that I was watering with higher Ph it tells me the soil may be a little low but its not my problem... the drops were as I said they ARE accurate as far as testing water but as soon as water hits soil then drops bam it doesn't read anything but acidic!?? So the soils in the grow are actually close to ideal randing throughout the 6's but they had to have been low as I was watering them Ph up more a while now, however due to all the insecticide watering and trying to pb the water guess what's up now!?? Lol we have mold through all the soil with current plants... so... as much as I hate to think it I'm gonna transplant again with my fingers crossed and if they make it amazing if not it'll kill me but I will be sprouting the back up beans( as I do have a decent many more of all my strains) and hopefully either way next week ill be back on track and in good conditions, I'm halfway through a light 5 bucket rdwc set up ill post on later. But for now with ALL THE CRAZY HELL I've been through with this issue I'm hoping that aside from me this can help SOMEONE!! LOL anyways for future reference if some one could just help me with this one basic principle... now that I have accurate readings... for Max plant growth and nutes absorption, before watering what should I be doing to know were to Ph my in going water to not shock roots?? Should I be taking a soil sample and testing it and adjusting water to that? Just sticking the meter in the soil? Or just watering at 6.8ish and adjusting each upcoming water to the previous runoff results? Any advice would be amazing!! Thanks everyone for the help much appreciated and ill be on to hopefully a happy log for all to enjoy!!!

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[Shovelhandle]

even a broken watch is correct twice a day. good luck going forward without the drops.

[Mal420xl]

best of luck indi.

[billydakid6812]

To be honest with you I barely ever check run off,unless duty calls I think its pointless i keep my water at 6.5 all the time when it goes through the soil, im not gonna lie have never really had much of a problem with ph in soil it stays pretty stable.ok now to the problem what have you ammended your soil with sometimes you just gotta give it a few good flushes and that run off will become more stable. I have learned that some soil additives such as roots organic will cause you to have a low run off in the 5s, im speaking from personal experience as long as you keep the water and nutrients at a 6.3-6.4 going in ur fine it will level out, I have never had a ph problem yet . Good luck hope i could help. Ps in my experience the droppers are alaways a little lower when they read next to a ph pen

[Indimaniac]

Thank you guys for helping me get back on track, most seems good, as my insects are all gone (knock on wood) as of right now, and I have been seeing good growth... but due to trying to fix my issues as I said before I know have moldy soil hence my last pic I posted, and with the fast growth and beings I was just watering with ph'd water I'm showing what I think is some definciencys... I'm gonna post a new thread plant problems to try to get some ideas.. and again THANKS!! you guys dug me out of a whole!! And me being me put myself in a new one on my own lol...