4'x8' set up? Need help choosing new grow room!

[Indimaniac]

Ok so short n sweet, I want to dive in head first to alot of stuff... but before I can do anything I have to set up my room! I live with my wife in a private area where space and/or neighbors are not a concern. I am however limited to my basement to grow the only thing that worries me is its very damp and most stuff put down there becomes moldy, however I thing once I enclose a small space down there it won't be an issue with my area right beside my furnace and my duct work will run a closable vent right into the grow room, I plan on running basically a 4x8? Or so, and using an existing wall to build to basically making a closet I want a devider or wall to separate 3 spaces(veg, flower, clones/prep) veg from flower as two 4x4? Rooms, and I want a small space for work with, clones, seeds, prep, etc. Maybe just a work bench in one of the rooms for this?I am planning on doing scrog for maximum yield from a handful of plants(preferred method) but I also wanna do a small sog beside the scrog? To experiment with both side by side to decide wich I prefer... but I have to come up with a basic layout before anything basically I need all the help I can get designing a good set up to maximize yield and lighting vent etc, I have money set aside for top notch lighting, a decent vent system with Carb filter, co2, etc and I'm thinking to avoid mold sealing off the existing wall with reflective film or something so the moisture/mold can't get in is my only safety aside from the heat from hps lighting and furnacethe heat will dry out the room and prevent mold right? As well as good proper air exchange?. what do you all think!? PS... I have 8ft ceilings and as far as available space its pretty much 15'x30' so I could build any size I just wanna be practical till I see how it goes... I would eventually like to expand and dabble with hydro etc but for now its basics...

Indimaniac Reviewed by Indimaniac on 02-03-2013. 4'x8' set up? Need help choosing new grow room! Ok so short n sweet, I want to dive in head first to alot of stuff... but before I can do anything I have to set up my room! I live with my wife in a private area where space and/or neighbors are not a concern. I am however limited to my basement to grow the only thing that worries me is its very damp and most stuff put down there becomes moldy, however I thing once I enclose a small space down there it won't be an issue with my area right beside my furnace and my duct work will run a closable Rating: 5

[low_rdr]

Um. If your basement has a mold problem, making sure your pulling in air from outside. There are some awesome 4x4x8 rooms setup with a single 600/1k HPS that yield 3 pounds per grow with good CO2 systems and awesome nutes. Don't dabble in soil if you can start with DWC. If you have the space and the cash, start with DWC, don't be scared.

If you want to start with a 4x8 that's fine, but use that for flowering and buy a cabinet for your cloning/vegging - You can read my CFL cabinet guide to get a good idea on how to do that, just use DWC instead of soil and you'll be golden. My clones take about 7 days to root in my cubes, with a bubbler they'd be a day or two faster. Also you can fit alot more in a veg cabinet using a 16 site DWC for veg vs my setup which only houses 3 moms

I would also recommend a battery backup system for your DWC's in case of power failure but that's it really - Look at the good guides, there are plenty of them... My cabinet will give you a good 300-500 cabinet and if you switch to dwc cloning/vegging you can get 5x the amount of plants in there that I can!

[growhand420]

low rdr is spot on with buying a cabinet for seedlings but with the space that you have i would build a wall to make 2 differant rooms
since you want to expieriment this will give you 2 diferent rooms for seperate grow expirements or you can use one for veg growth and one for flowering
with lighting i would go with 2 600watt HPS unless your going to use one room for veg and one for flowering then i would go with 600w MH for the veg and a HPS for flowering
as for the scrog method your going to have fun with that i heard its hard first attemt but it does double yield

[painretreat]

I am not a grower, but I think you need to address the mold problem, before you start; it is not only hazardous to the plants, it is to YOU! Once you start assembly and grow, you will be spending more time in that basement, than anywhere. There are many articles on the topic. Oh, and try to choose mold resistant plants, if possible.

I would suggest controlling the mold now. Before you introduce any plants.

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If you have a mold problem in your basement.. you may want to consider running a sealed room (NO in/out for the room itself).. A 12000 BTU portable A/C with direct in/out ducting would be perfect for the size of room you are running if you have your light in a sealed cool tube loop (Or.. if you go LED.. which I HIGHLY recommend!). The A/C acts as a dehumidifier as well.. and by sealing the room.. you also make much better use of your Co2 becuase your exhause wont be sucking the Co2 out once an hour or w/e. Sealed rooms are a little more expensive to set up.. but being able to seal off your room from outside elements and control every aspect of your room is priceless imo.. Good luck!