all led grow

[Mal420xl]

couple better pics of the wrinkly babies.

[Mal420xl]

cant really explain it but these are going down like the phototron plants did. I popped 4 more and im gonna put them in next to these(in bigger pots) to see what happens. either my water is absolutely toxic,hard to believe since they germ in it pretty nicely, or there is just some kind of bad juju goin on. only thing i can figure is some kind ph thing is happening but i have been making sure to keep it adjusted also dont get why i am having to chase it so much never had these kinds of problems before ever.

[Mal420xl]

odd observation. i germed 4 more just in case the first had issues...and they did. so i put them straight in with the first batch i started so each plant will have a month old with issues and a seedling with none.
the seedlings just started breaking thru last nite, well 2 did and one more this am and it looks like the 4th is a question mark still. the odd part is the seedlings as tiny as they are have thicker stems than the plant thats older.
they are 3 gallon pots with ff ocean forest straight out of the bag. the originals i have to say are doing much better since being replanted but they are still very stunted. one has 6 or 7 nodes but is only maybe 4 or 5 inches tall.
no strain info other than they are from the same buds and its an indica dominate from mexico.

[Mal420xl]

was hard to get a good perspective but the one seedling pic and stem pic hopefully help. that seedling is in with the plant from the stem pic that plant has 6 nodes and a 7 on the way. the seedling stem is almost, not quite but almost twice the size of the bigger older plant. if this turns out like i think i may need to write an angry letter to miracle grow demanding they change their name to "its a miracle if it grows".

[Mal420xl]

4th one is up. let the fight for survival begin. try to get some better pics up later.

[Mal420xl]

all 4 are up, tallest healthiest plant by this time next week lives...

[bitemybud]

I am still watching. I see more and more piks of good looking buds using led's; But; In comparison to the bushes and trees I grow under HID lamps; I still have to go with HID.

Your plants are looking good. I am pulling for you. I think it is becoming more of a matter of how much yield can you get; as opposed to whether or not you can grow good Meds with LED's

[Mal420xl]

I am still watching. I see more and more piks of good looking buds using led's; But; In comparison to the bushes and trees I grow under HID lamps; I still have to go with HID.

Your plants are looking good. I am pulling for you. I think it is becoming more of a matter of how much yield can you get; as opposed to whether or not you can grow good Meds with LED's

cool thanks man, im not sure whatever yield i get from this run will be a true measure. no co2 really other than carbonated water once they are bigger, no scrog, probably will top or fim them, i could put a few more plants in but im just trying to see what is gonna need tweaking or whatever. i dont guess i need huge yields really, if i got an ounce or so apiece of decent tops
and whatever else i can squeeze out of it ill be happy. these lights are pretty amazing so far. the older ones would have been bigger by now if i had just started them in ffof (yeah i know but so far both the older plants and the seedlings seems to love it) instead of miracle grow seed starter. the ph was all over the place. anyway well see next friday which ones make it and which get yanked.

[boaz]

looking good man. :greenthumb: I guess I must have come from the old school guerrilla farming days too, lol, i used to dump about 50 bag seed in a cup and let them fight it out, may the best plant win. I'm no expert but here a few things that I've had to deal with over the years. crap in the water, unless you've got your own well you probably have crap added to the water that needs to be filtered out. i used to boil a big pot of water, let it cool and use the top layer of water. i also had to force myself to allow the soil to totally dry out between watering so the roots can get enuff oxygen. and i usually use water only for the first few days anyway for the seedlings and then start adding in ferts later. but i've never used led, good luck, glad your posting it here.

[Mal420xl]

thanks boaz,
I just use non filtered, ph corrected tap water and foxfarms oceanforest now. the ec and ppm in my water are both really low but the ph is over 9. i was using miracle grow but everytime i did a run off the ph was all over the place. its no wonder my first few goes burned up. ill put some pics up tomorrow if the change is noticeable enough.