Joe your the man! thanks for the advice. i had a BAD spider mite problem late last year. i refuse to use chemical pesticides, so i really had no where to turn. after reading your post, i grabbed a bottle of Quantum Apocalypse and have been spraying for a couple weeks, and now i have absolutely no mites at all!! so excited to have found this product! anyone looking to get rid of your bug problems, THIS IS THE WAY TO GO!