Tips for tuning an ultrasonic atomizer type cloner

[bitemybud]

Up to 90, no lower than 77 - My clone box is 100 at the base, and the air is a little under 80, 100% success not counting the two I've inadvertently killed (dome was too small on one, so it rotted from the outside in, and the other one got too much air)

I've got a clone in the box after 2 weeks in flower, and its going well, still strong (been a week) So she'll survive. The warmer the bottom is, the more and faster roots will grow and expand, I know your using a hydro system, but for those using soil, this stands true as well, but please remember, the hotter your seedling medium, the faster it will dry out, I water my cuttlings and seedlings 4x per day (just a few drops, just keep it moist). I've seen bases as high as 120 in hydro, mine is the hottest in soil I've ever seen, but it works for me

:thumbsup: Keep it up Joe!

I agree. 80-90 for all propagation, making sure you keep the humidity up as well. Again to make sure your babies are warm enough; I still recommend getting a seedling mat.

[JoeBlow78]

okay. so hears an update. I had to make some changes to the aria and the temperature became unstable for a wile and still isn't great. I'm quite limited as to what I can do with space, ventilation, temperature and power supply (20A 115V max). I was having a really stable temp before the changes. Hi was 76 and low was 72 never higher or lower. Now however I'm having problems (power supply limitations) being the main factor in temperature.

The best I can do is compromise with flower aria at 70-74 and veg at 68-72. The only way I can increase the temperature at the moment is to slow exhaust even more. But the exhaust fan is approaching stall voltage and can't be turned down any more. Cant run a heater when the 1000w light is on. I set the heater and thermostat on a timer so it can not activate if the light is on. Pulling air from outside that fluctuates anywhere between 8 and 32 deg.F (and will get much colder) is complicating things.

OH!! and being as poor as donkey shit can be is probably buy far the biggest contributing factor. LMAO. not sure why I'm laughing. But all of a sudden its funny that I went from having all that I needed and most of what I wanted in life to this!

Ok I got of topic. Back to busyness. wow so 80-100 Deg huh. OK Ill figure something out quick then because an average of 68 aint even close to that.

I must say I'm happy with the progress despite all this the clippings look the same as when I took them three days ago. so a heat mat is out of the question for this month. Ill jimmy rig something up for now.

Thanks for the advice again. I'll hopefully have better news next time.

[JoeBlow78]

To clarify I'm still using the home made ultra sonic cloner which has been neglected because of unrelated circumstances. It has clones in it there are rooting (slowly) but with an unstable success rate. The unit needs more tuning and I need more experience. For now I decided after talking to a few people that I'd use a rock wool propagation tray with a dome. Mainly because it seemed to be a much more guaranteed success rate. At the moment the slower they root and grow the better but its impotent that they survive till i see how the parents turn out. I took two clones from each. I'm using a standard sheet of 98 rock wool starter cubes with a 7” Clear Dome cover. The dome has adjustable ventilation holes. The rook wool is in a tray with Holes that sits inside a standard tray with no holes which has just enough water in it to not touch the rock wool. I'm currently working out how to raise the tray temp with what little junk I've got laying around.

[bitemybud]

Can you actually use a smaller font? Man.......

1st. Using an exhaust fan when the light is off; Is a waste of electricity.

If you can run a 1000w lamp, in you r grow space, and keep temps in the 70's, then you don't need much exhaust. However; it does help to recirculate air. You need athermostat that turns on fan if temps get above 80-85 degrees.

A 100-w lamp and ballast use approx. 11 amps. so you should not an issue runnign all you need for the small area you are using. doesn;t make sense that you are having issues in that regard.

lastly. Grow room should be 1/3 of total available size of entire grow area. this is because when you flower planys will be at least 2-3 times as big as vegged planys. One final note. You want the veg area hotter than the flower area; Always.

[JoeBlow78]

Can you actually use a smaller font? Man.......

Sorry about the font size. I don't know whats going on I've been cranking the font size up to "3". I'll try the highest setting. It appears considerably larger then average on my PC. Let me know if this helps.

[JoeBlow78]

Can you actually use a smaller font? Man.......

1st. Using an exhaust fan when the light is off; Is a waste of electricity.

If you can run a 1000w lamp, in you r grow space, and keep temps in the 70's, then you don't need much exhaust. However; it does help to recirculate air. You need athermostat that turns on fan if temps get above 80-85 degrees.

A 100-w lamp and ballast use approx. 11 amps. so you should not an issue runnign all you need for the small area you are using. doesn;t make sense that you are having issues in that regard.

lastly. Grow room should be 1/3 of total available size of entire grow area. this is because when you flower plants will be at least 2-3 times as big as vegged plants. One final note. You want the veg area hotter than the flower area; Always.

Yes that's correct. Just under eleven amps for that one light alone. But when I include everything else (humidifier, the fans, 8-t8 bulbs, 4 23w cfls and the exhaust fan) it doesn't leave enough room for the heater. If the heater comes on it puts me over by quite a bit. the heater uses a little over 13A on high and around 8A on low.