Need help, don't smoke but attempting to grow!

[low_rdr]

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low_rdr Reviewed by low_rdr on 12-11-2012. Need help, don't smoke but attempting to grow! Hey all! I'm new to growing and pretty much anything cannabis ;p Because of my ignorance for my first time grow I germinated 5 seeds 2 weeks ago and am now trying to figure these ladies (hopefully) out. Needless to say they are only now getting their third set of leaves and it's slow going! It's been a bumpy road and I've researched like a crazy lady but still have questions. First: Lighting was not optimal in the begining and probably still isn't. Using 4 CFL 100W daylight bulbs 6500K about 4 Rating: 5

[JoeBlow78]

Thanks gonna try that now.

[growmamma]

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[low_rdr]

No worries, your doing fine. Remember this is backseed so you don't even know what they should look like Has the yellowing stopped or is it continuing to spread? Also, your going to see a BIG jump very shortly, your roots are exploring, one reason I put my riot cubes in solo cups or 1 gallon pots after they sprout is so the roots can't go too far, and the foilage keeps up with the roots. If you pull those plants up right now, even though they look so tiny, you'll find a very strong root structure, see how strong your main stems are?

These little ladies will be just find GM, your doing a good job. If your still seeing yellowing, increase your nitrogen just a bit.

[growmamma]

Low rdr- curious how long you think I should let these gals veg for..As I really have no clue since the got such a slow start..although the difference between last week and this week is huge..they still are taking their time lol..also I wanted to see if you could give me a hand with my build and what I'll need..some one on here mentioned a program that you can use to design but for the life of me I can't remember!!! Who would of thought that come hitting 30 next week that I would be so forgetful!! -

Also what seed banks would you recommend as after this bad seed I would really prefer to get better genetics!!

[low_rdr]

Well GM,

Since your not a smoker, and your growing - regardless of WHY your growing, I'd need to know what effects your looking for before I could recommend a good seed bank or distributor. My selection of strains, along with reasoning is as follows:

Durban Poison - Migraine Relief & Stomache Issues, side effects are a very conscious buzz that isn't much of a couch lock (unless its over flowered)
White Widow - Pain Relief & Appetite Inducer, side effects are a lazy feeling, limp, and relaxed - This is also good for muscle pain.
Pineapple Express - Antidepressant & Mood Stabilizer, this is my main strain for some of the conditions I suffer from, the side effects are an energetic and elevated buzz, I've also noticed that this induces motivation as well as 'higher plane' thinking. This is great for people with 'asshole syndrome' or people who don't want to be stuck on the couch.
Bubblicious - migrain relief & appetite inducer - This is a good strain when you have company over for good times.
Super Skunk - Pain Relief & Antidepressant - This is GREAT for after a long days work when you just need to unwind and relax - Chill out on the couch and watch family guy.
PowerBud - General Treatment - The strain genetics are good for a multitude of symtoms, side effects are increased appetite (munchies like hell), mild muscle relaxer with a tingly feeling at first, and sever couch lock if taken in excess. Very good yields per plant.
Super Lemon Haze - Close to pineapple express in effects, very smooth taste, great sativa yields, this does have a longer flowering time (up to 14 weeks) and has a very heady effect, ever feel like your superman? If not, this will get you there.
Khali Mist - General Treatment, Khali can be used either for THC or CBD depending on who or what its grown for, and its effects can be great on everything from nausea to sleep disorders.

Most of my strains are sativa's or mainly sativa mixes. Your indicas are more for nausea, sleep disorders, etc. I use Grand Daddy Purple to treat insomnia, nausea, stress, and if taken in excess has morphine type effects, however an overdose can make one more nauseous!

Cinderella 99 is a new strain for me, the gentics are pretty solid, and although I need personal experience with it, I'm pretty sure this will be a pain killer/nausea/appetite treatment. Remember, I do grow for medicinal purposes for my wife and I, so some of these I have to keep on hand, like the pineapple express and the GDP - We're actually dry right now, my wife has sever IBS which includes massive nausea spasms lately, and I have a high stress job, so the anti depressants and mood stabilizers keep the 'asshole syndrome' at bay, without making me feel like a zombie. Imagine curing kids ADD with a vaporizer twice a day.... We're only a few years away!

Okay - So for your plants. I would veg these guys out til about 9-12" and hopefully at least 7 nodes by then, and honestly, I'd leave them in the 1 gallon pots. Your not going to yield much, but it is bagseed, so just getting them to flower and being able to harvest is going to brighten your day. If you want to switch them over to 3 gallon to flower, you can, and it will increase the yield, but these girls don't like to be transplanted alot.

I'd like to suggest you get ahold of me personally and we'll go over budget/grow options, and I will gladly design a cabinet that will fit your needs, if you, or someone in the house is handy with tools, we can go cheaper and better

See the purple button under my name? That's how you contact me.

[Weezard]

"Durban Poison - Migraine Relief & Stomache Issues, side effects are a very conscious buzz that isn't much of a couch lock (unless its over flowered)
White Widow - Pain Relief & Appetite Inducer, side effects are a lazy feeling, limp, and relaxed - This is also good for muscle pain.
Pineapple Express - Antidepressant & Mood Stabilizer, this is my main strain for some of the conditions I suffer from, the side effects are an energetic and elevated buzz, I've also noticed that this induces motivation as well as 'higher plane' thinking. This is great for people with 'asshole syndrome' or people who don't want to be stuck on the couch.
Bubblicious - migrain relief & appetite inducer - This is a good strain when you have company over for good times.
Super Skunk - Pain Relief & Antidepressant - This is GREAT for after a long days work when you just need to unwind and relax - Chill out on the couch and watch family guy.
PowerBud - General Treatment - The strain genetics are good for a multitude of symtoms, side effects are increased appetite (munchies like hell), mild muscle relaxer with a tingly feeling at first, and sever couch lock if taken in excess. Very good yields per plant.
Super Lemon Haze - Close to pineapple express in effects, very smooth taste, great sativa yields, this does have a longer flowering time (up to 14 weeks) and has a very heady effect, ever feel like your superman? If not, this will get you there.
Khali Mist - General Treatment, Khali can be used either for THC or CBD depending on who or what its grown for, and its effects can be great on everything from nausea to sleep disorders.
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Howzit LR?

This looks like the start of an excellent thread!
It will be very useful, medically.
Start it, and I'll add my impressions of different strains/effects.


Mahalo nui,

Weeze

[low_rdr]

Great post low rdr...I don't know that its completely acurate tho. When I bought my White Widow seeds from Nirvana it says and I quote directly from the site "Nirvana White Widow produces a buzz that is powerful yet energizing and very social" nothing about making you lazy. God knows I dont need anymore help in that department. If it does and had I known that I wouldnt have ordered them seeds. Honestly I really want Blueberry seeds from Dutch Passion. I smoked some once that was amazing. Best shit ive ever had.

Not trying to argue with you just wondering where u got ur facts and if they are accurate. Thats the only strain I really know anything about and I noticed ur error immediately.

When white widow is grown to maturity, and not harvested early the entire thing is just packed with CBD - If your harvesting just as the trichs are changing, you'll get the effect your looking for. Your also using Nirvana, I'm using Seedsman - They are different genetics, and my pheno might have more indica attributes than yours, I'm putting one in flower in about a month, and I'll put some pics up of her. I flower them for a full 14-15 weeks, with the last two weeks in complete darkness and give it about 2200 PPM cO2 in the final stretch. My hairs are 100% brown (not red) when I harvest, and my trichs are mostly amber. - There are only a few nirvana strains I'm a fan of, bubblicious is one of those.

Also, if you look up images of seedsman white widow vs nirvana white widow, you can definitely see a genetic difference. If this is your first experience with WW, take it easy at first, one good bong rip and give it a few minutes before you go again, this is one of those strains that can really get your head spinning if you don't take it easy, of course, different pheno than mine, so might be a different effect there as well.

[bitemybud]

When white widow is grown to maturity, and not harvested early the entire thing is just packed with CBD - If your harvesting just as the trichs are changing, you'll get the effect your looking for. Your also using Nirvana, I'm using Seedsman - They are different genetics, and my pheno might have more indica attributes than yours, I'm putting one in flower in about a month, and I'll put some pics up of her. I flower them for a full 14-15 weeks, with the last two weeks in complete darkness and give it about 2200 PPM cO2 in the final stretch. My hairs are 100% brown (not red) when I harvest, and my trichs are mostly amber. - There are only a few nirvana strains I'm a fan of, bubblicious is one of those.

Also, if you look up images of seedsman white widow vs nirvana white widow, you can definitely see a genetic difference. If this is your first experience with WW, take it easy at first, one good bong rip and give it a few minutes before you go again, this is one of those strains that can really get your head spinning if you don't take it easy, of course, different pheno than mine, so might be a different effect there as well.

When trichomes start to turn amber; The thc is decaying. Yes, you will get a more sleepy or couchlock effect when the trichomes are predominatly amber. So,it is best to harvest this type of genetics when the trichomes are predominantly cloudy. Whebn clear trichomes are a vessel for thc. It is not until they are cloudy they actually contain the thc you are expecting in order to experience the potency you are looking for.

I agree that the earlier you harvet form clear trichomes, to partly cloudy trichomes to clear, cloudy, and amber trichomes; the more you lose the "up" high and gravitate towards sleepy time. If you wait until all trichomes or majority are amber; you have passed the ultimate potency level and will get sleepy instead of energetic.

You can buy a nice hand held pocket magnifier for about $10.00 at radio shak, or online somewhere, to look at your trichomes and determine the % of clear cloudy or ambner trichomes. This is the only way to truly judge as to when you need to flush, and harvest. There is no exact measurement in weeks to determine when to harvest.

Funny. I might be wrong, but I am pretty sure I have read low rdr say; "I harvest when trichs are mostly cloudy", And here he says, "I harvest when trichs are mostly amber". Perhaps he is making a different choice depending on strain. I always harvest when trichomes are mostly cloudy; Giving you the most potent and healthy uplifting type effect that any genetics can give.


One final note. co2 should never be applied over about 1500 ppm. And; Especially not in the final 2 weeks when you are trying to flush minerals, toxins, etc... from your plants. Plants overdosed with co2 can be harmed just as bad as if you dose them with nutrients at too high a ppm level regardless of time in grow. So; In theory; You would not fertilize or apply co2 after you start your flush period.

Hope this helps.

[ghost83]

Great post low rdr...I don't know that its completely acurate tho. When I bought my White Widow seeds from Nirvana it says and I quote directly from the site "Nirvana White Widow produces a buzz that is powerful yet energizing and very social" nothing about making you lazy. God knows I dont need anymore help in that department. If it does and had I known that I wouldnt have ordered them seeds. Honestly I really want Blueberry seeds from Dutch Passion. I smoked some once that was amazing. Best shit ive ever had.

Not trying to argue with you just wondering where u got ur facts and if they are accurate. Thats the only strain I really know anything about and I noticed ur error immediately.