Results 1 to 10 of 46
Threaded View
-
04-25-2004, 06:16 AM #35Senior Member
The resurection is the key!
Joker121, forgive me if I was hasty to defensive positions. I am sure you can see why I have felt attacked in previous posts.
My faith is the cornerstone of my reality. I am able and willing to defend it, but would rather share it with those interested. Your non-agressive approach is refreshing as well. I wouldn't let what people think of you (even those people who go to church) keep you from seeking out God. James 4:8 says "Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you." I can admit easily that many in the clergy have offended and many christian's may have their nose in the air. There have been atrocities commited in the name of Christ. None the less, we should not throw the baby out with the bath water. If you know what I mean. Scripture is can only be found true or untrue on it's own merits and not by the example of fallen mankind (even church goers.)
Personally, I didn't care for Bill Clinton getting blow jobs in the oval office, but I'm sure you can agree that the transgression did not bare on whether the decisions he made from that office were right or wrong. They need to be judged on their own merits as well and not by his other misdeeds. Likewise, you ought to consider the Bible for its own evidence.
The fact that you are bisexual does not bother me. You are free to live your life as well. I do believe though that it is a risk filled lifestyle. I don't condone it either, but I can accept you (which doesn't mean accept all your actions) without either of us being perfect. Did you read the article in the link about what the Bible says about homosexuality? If so, any comments?
Thanks for being respectful in your query. I hope you will find me to be the same.
I understand your views regarding me and my sexuality, and I'm glad to hear your feelings put thta way. I've heard it put many more hateful ways, and I think you got it right. Expressing yourself, without shoving down peoples throats.
I think we all jsut need to calm down, and seek spiritual and inner peace. I'm not saying that I've attained moksha(nirvana, enlightenment) or anything like that. but I've grwon over the past few days in terms of spirituality, adn my relationship to people, and the earth.
While I do find your quotatations and such from the bible intersting, I stopped relying on ancient texts long ago. I fetl, that personally I had to look to myself, and find out what I thought about god/creator/divine spirit/yaweh/etc.
I've found that this omnipotent spirit exists in everything, and is always with me. I wouldn't define it as Jess, or god, or naything reall, just an all loving force that is in all things, and is the essence of the universe. It loves me, and shows me how to love everyone.
I like to write 'Namaste' after some of my posts. It is a Hindu term,though I am not Hindu, that means I bow to you and your divinity. I guess this would be the Christain equivalent of seeing Jesus in someone. I find a reason that every person, and thing is beautiful. I love those who would hate me, and those who wouldn't. I'm not perfect about it, but I try my best. I'm only human, and it would be foolish of me to deny that as a human I am imperfect. I guess that I have fond the true meaning of the word Namaste, and it means something to me now, it doesn't jsut have a 'cool meaning' it is the menaing, and the feelings that I hold behind it, that are important to me. I mena when I say it and write it.
Regarding Bill Clinton, I totally agree with you, that whole thing, seemed liek a huge media distraction stunt to me. It really didn't matter, and was blown wayyy out of proportion. Although, it did make for some great jokes lol!
I checked out your site, and I liked it, b/c I had never heard any more reasoning behind the whole gays and the bible thing, beyond Soddom and Gammorah(spelling?). I just wonder how far 'not condoning' homosexuality goes. Is it just not condoning, or does it go farther? Again, I am making these jusgements based on other people I know. I guess I'm just trying to say that I think that some people can misconstrue that message.
I used to be Catholic, and then I got tired of that, b/c I wasn't feeling anything while doing it, and I say the church, and all of hte other christain options that surrounded me, as being filled with hypocrisy. I then tried to go a buddhist path. That was good for a while, but there was one problem. Buddhism has their own littel ten commandments called the eightfold path. It says no smoking, and no drinking. That was my one problem. I didn't want to be a part buddhist or anything corny like that, and for a hile I was in a tailspin, not knowing what or how to worship. Then I realized, that I was boxing myself in to think that I had to have a religion. I realized, that I should try seeing what made sense to me.
I wouldn't reccomend this to everybody. I cna see where most people would only half heartedly go after spirituality like this, and seek to create their own religion/ belief system, with practically no rules. I obeyed my conscience. ANd now, I have found happiness, contention ,and I feel connected with the divine wisdom of the universe.
I guess there is one quote that really sums up my feelings on religion "Religion is the opiate of the masses"-Karl Marx.
Some peole get wayyy to into it, and don't even stop to think for themselves. Taht is why I wen my own route.
I hope I didn't ramble too much. But it was nice to get a civl response, peace and love man
Namaste(I really do mean it)