Asses of Evil

[amsterdam]

bush impeached??funny.

[Hydrizzle]

Did anyone read my post? I basically proved that this website is complete garbage, yet morlbory continues to believe.

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...593607,00.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...5_intel06.html

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/pro..._the_facts.php

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, May 06, 2005
Washington, DC
Progressive Democrats of America Make National Call of Support for Congressional Letter Demanding Investigation of British Intelligence Leak on Iraq Invasion Strategy

Rep. John Conyers, Jr. (D-MI), ranking minority member of the House Judiciary Committee, has released a letter signed by 88 fellow Representatives. The letter demands an investigation into the revelation that the American and British governments colluded secretly to manipulate intelligence as a means of justifying a decision to invade Iraq that had already been made. The Conyers letter and names of the House signatories can be read here:

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democ...emoltr5505.pdf

The revelations came on Monday, May 2nd by way of a report published in the London Telegraph, which described a leaked British intelligence memo from July of 2002. The memo, stamped "Secret, " described concerted efforts by both British and American officials to "fix intelligence and facts around the policy." The policy in question was the invasion of Iraq. The memo noted specifically that the invasion would be illegal if a justification were not found or created.

The London Telegraph report can be read here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, , 2087-1592724, 00.html

The British memo in question can be read here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, , 2087-1593607, 00.html

Rep. Conyers' letter specifically notes that the secret British memo includes revelations that:

* Prime Minister Tony Blair chaired a meeting at which he discussed military options, having already committed himself to supporting President Bush's plans for invading Iraq.
* British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw acknowledged that the case for war was "thin" as "Saddam was not threatening his neighbours and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea, or Iran."
* A separate secret briefing for the meeting said that Britain and America had to "create" conditions to justify a war.
* A British official "reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

The information revealed by this memo, which has not been denied by either the American or British governments, confirms accusations by a wide variety of 'whistleblowers' who have accused the Bush administration of manufacturing evidence for war against Iraq. Among these are:

* Richard Clarke, former White House Counter-Terrorism Czar, who accused the administration of using the September 11 attacks to justify an Iraq invasion, thus creating the political cover described in the British memo.
* Tom Maertens, National Security Council director for nuclear non-proliferation for both the Clinton and Bush White House, backed up Clarke's story with his own eyewitness testimony.
* Roger Cressey, Clarke's former deputy, who witnessed one of the most damning charges that has been leveled against the administration by Clarke: They blew past al Qaeda after the 9/11 attacks, focusing instead on Iraq.
* Donald Kerrick, a three-star General who served as deputy National Security Advisor under Clinton and stayed for several months in the Bush White House, likewise saw this happening.
* Paul O'Neill, former Treasury Secretary for George W. Bush, was afforded a position on the National Security Council because of his job as Treasury Secretary, and sat in on the Iraq invasion planning sessions which were taking place months before the attacks of September 11. Those planning sessions kicked into high gear when the Towers came down.
* Greg Thielmann, former Director of the Office of Strategic, Proliferation, and Military Issues in the State Department, who was stunned to see the White House use the 'uranium from Niger' war justifications that had been so thoroughly debunked.
* Joseph Wilson, former ambassador and career diplomat, who personally debunked the uranium story after traveling to Niger to investigate the claims.

The most damning testimony regarding "fixing intelligence and facts around the policy" came from Air Force Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski in a 2004 interview with Salon magazine.

The Kwiakatowski interview with Salon can be read here:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature...10/osp_moveon/

Kwiatkowski worked in the office of Undersecretary for Policy Douglas Feith, and worked specifically with a secretive Pentagon organization run by Feith called the Office of Special Plans. Kwiatkowski reported: "From May 2002 until February 2003, I observed firsthand the formation of the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans and watched the latter stages of the neoconservative capture of the policy-intelligence nexus in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq."

"I saw a narrow and deeply flawed policy, " continued Kwiatkowski, "favored by some executive appointees in the Pentagon used to manipulate and pressurize the traditional relationship between policymakers in the Pentagon and U.S. intelligence agencies. I witnessed neoconservative agenda bearers within OSP usurp measured and carefully considered assessments, and through suppression and distortion of intelligence analysis promulgate what were in fact falsehoods to both Congress and the executive office of the president."

Progressive Democrats of America stands with Rep. Conyers and the 88 House members who are signatories to his letter and demands that a full and complete investigation be immediately undertaken into this matter.

Media Contact for this release:
Kimberly Krautter
Toll Free (877) 368-9221
[email protected]

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What I was asking was, why isn't this on the front page? If this were truly damning of the Iraq war, the media would give it practically 24/7 coverage.... why when i search for it in google, does it come up with nothing but that Texas Air National Guard memo? Maybe because this memo is not that important.

[amsterdam]

if keith olberman on msnbc isnt chasing it,the story isnt impotant to liberals.

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What I was asking was, why isn't this on the front page? If this were truly damning of the Iraq war, the media would give it practically 24/7 coverage.... why when i search for it in google, does it come up with nothing but that Texas Air National Guard memo? Maybe because this memo is not that important.

Could it be that the media is controlled and is told what to print and what NOT to print? Do you believe only what the media puts on the front page? Why do so many people distrust Bush if he is genuinely trustworthy? The man is obviously mentally handi-capped. Ask him a question that involves deep thought, and you get a confused look and stammering. Or even a question that requires a truthfull answer. Stuttering and stupid Bush. Why defend this? A figurehead for the Alluminati is all he is.

A nazi like police force and fear are the only things keeping questions from being answered truthfully and the people from revolting. The amunition is there to defeat this tyrannical government if enough of the people could only find the balls to use it. Maybe when enough people are unemployed and enough of our children die for the will of the Elite, things will change. But I doubt it. Americans have become fat wimps. As long as we have a meal and a paycheck the boat don't rock.

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A nazi like police force and fear are the only things keeping questions from being answered truthfully and the people from revolting. The amunition is there to defeat this tyrannical government if enough of the people could only find the balls to use it. Maybe when enough people are unemployed and enough of our children die for the will of the Elite, things will change. But I doubt it. Americans have become fat wimps. As long as we have a meal and a paycheck the boat don't rock.

Are you saying that we should revolt agaisnt the US? Well, I'll be one of the real freedom-fighters drawin a bead on your head while you try to put in your communist dictatorship. Bye the way have you compared the statistics of our country to those of others? We are way far ahead of the game. I think those might go down alot of a revolution happened dumass.

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I think someone on these Boards Said. Well I don't care if Bush lied about the Iraqi war. Or maybe it was on another political board I frequent and they also said you can't be impeached for just lieing. I say to that first, its easy for YOU to say you don't care. But what about the Troops who were told that Our information was ROCK solid on the WOMD. Now it might be that Bush Fixed information or Fed lies to the Troops to get them to Iraq. Also it is an impeachable, Rackettering, being fraudulant to gain money is Rackettering. And Bush gained A LOT of money in Military Funding due to Iraq.

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I'm glad to see that the Downing Memo is getting attention on CNN.

I'm waiting for FOX NEWS to finally have to aknowlege the existance of the memo. I love fox news. Don't get me wrong I'm a big Liberal, I watch it to keep up with the water cooler talks with my right wing co-workers. I'm also addicted to the infotainment aspect to this cable news channel as it's full of right wing hate vomit that's devoid of any real news. My favorite are the prime time "shouties". I love watching Hannity call some guy a baby killer, and Colmes respond with will be back after the break. I really can't wait for them to spin this memo story with their hate retoric.

I've taken the liberty to write O'Reilly's Talking Points Memo:

Hi, I'm Bill O'Reilly. Thanks for watching us tonight

Liberals and their ongoing crusade to smear the truth and the Bush Administration, by any means possible. that's the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo.

Liberals are up in arms about a supposed leaked memo from the British government detailing the minutes of a meeting in July, 2002, between Blair and his upper intelligence and military chiefs. Though the British Government has not disputed the validity of this memo, IT'S VALIDITY HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED, BY BLAIR OR ANY OF HIS STAFF.

A group of 89 Democratic congressmen have written to Mr Bush expressing their shock at the revelations. Well intentioned or not, these congressmen are asking the president to respond to an accusation that HAS NOT BEEN VALIDATED.

Mainstream media attention was understandably scarce, at first. But pressure from the Progressives and Liberals has insured that this poor excuse for a "smoking gun" get undeserved attention. I state once again that the alleged memo is NOT VALID and has no place in Journalism where accusations must be checked before blurting them out for our enemies to use as propaganda. Look what happened to Dan Rather?

So why are liberals up in arms? Let's look at the facts:



Liberals hate the Bush Administration. Since the Bush Administration is an Administration of Moral Values and work to defeat Terrorism, Liberals hate morals, values and love Terrorism


Since the Downing Memo has not been Validated, it is invalid, Therefore, the liberal agenda is an agenda of lies and deceit.


In 1980, 79 percent of Canadians said that religion was important for the nation there. That number has now dropped to 61 percent. That has nothing to do with this Talking Point, I just think it's a shame.




"Talking Points" is convinced that the USA cannot defeat terrorism and any other evil if it constantly has to respond to allegations of conspiracy, smoke screening the issue, and staging justifications to entice the American public to support the President's war against the evil doers.

"Talking Points" feels that it has spent enough time on this issue and will not waste anymore time on this so that we can pursue real stories that matter, because we're looking out for you.


Later tonight on the program:



Are you a traitor for not running down the street and shooting any suspected illegal alien in the face? This pinhead commentator says that you aren't.

I'll be talking to Aphrodite Jones, about the Michael Jackson case. She'll give me a blank stare when I ask "Do you think He's guilty?"

James Dobson and Pat Roberson will be with us to talk about "What would Jesus do to fight terror?"

We'll talk about Ward Churchill.. Not because he's done anything newsworthy lately, I just feel the need to remind you to hate him.