Burnt Toast I want to just say you are awesome and a great source of knowledge. I have not posted much on here but I have been lurking all day for the past week straight. I am in the same situation as Pops was in and am looking for some confirmation. I just took a test at labcorp with only a week notice after smoking the day before the pre-employment screen was popped on me. Got a great job offer out of the blue and of course when they asked if I could pass a drug test and background check I said absolutely. I have subbed before years ago with male urine (I'm male) and actually turned it in at 104 degrees...oops! Luckily the testing place was kind of dinky and they let me retest right after 20 mins of drinking water, what they didn't know is I saved about two ounces of the clean pee and by the time I retested, unsupervised of course, the pee cooled down and was accepted and I passed. Well that was years ago and I hadn't subbed since then, but this time I knew again subbing was my only option.

The problem was in the short timeframe I could not find any male friends that I knew were clean and would give me there piss, so my only option was my wife who is not preggo or on any birth control or prescriptions. I actually bought the CleanStream Synthetic Urine Kit with 5 oz of synth urine and a strapon bladder with tubing, heat pads, and temp strip. After reading all the posts about synth urine I could not trust it as this job meant so much. After reading mainly all of your posts about gender not mattering at all I decided to use my wife's ultra clean urine.

I went to labcorp with everything setup, urine in the bladder strapped under my boxers, heating pad etc. Test was actually very easy and laid back no supervision, no emptying pockets, no pat down, just hand washing, instructions, and fill the cup. The temp was good at 96 degrees and they accepted my sample and checked yes where it said "temp between 90-100". I am still a little worried as is my nature so here are my questions:

1. On my original paper work it said 9 panel drug screen. However they did not do an instant test at labcorp. They took the pee, verified the temp, filled a smaller vile sealed it with a signed label and had me pour the remaining urine out in the toilet. Is this normal?
2. On the chain of custody form it again says "yes" to temps between 90-100 with no additional comments. It also says "split specimen NO" and "Collection Observed NO" it then says specimen bottle released to FedEx. Is this normal?
3. Then it says "Test requested by employer 729712.0001" nothing about 9 panel on the COC form. What is your opinion on this?

I feel pretty good now that I have seen POPS recent results subbing female urine but I of course am still nervous and looking for some peace of mind. The good news is the only form I signed outside of the sign in sheet which was just my name and time arrived was the COC form. At the bottom it clearly says "I authorize the collection of this specimen for the purpose of a drug screen" It goes on to say that the specimen is mine and that I allow the results to be submitted to the employer. It does not say anything about gender testing or other tests other than a "drug screen".

What are your thoughts toast? Or POPS? Or anyone who has had the same experience with subbing female urine for your own.

Thanks so much everyone, your information has really helped get me through step one and hopefully onto step two....a great new job!