Entrapment? Any Lawyers out there?

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What is entrapment?

If person "X" places a want ad for cannabis on the web and person "Y" responds to the ad. But Person "X" is Leo. Can person "Y" be prosecuted for selling? Would that be called entrapment? Could person "Y" still go to jail?
I thought Leo couldn't be the one to initiate the transfer. But if you asked Leo for durgs then he could prosecute you.. is that right?

Kinda confused cuz I saw an episode of cops where they had this fine ass cop pretending to be a hooker waiving down johns in SF. Once the john's agreed they got arrested. I thought Leo couldn't do that??!!!

Read Reviewed by Read on 05-09-2005. Entrapment? Any Lawyers out there? What is entrapment? If person "X" places a want ad for cannabis on the web and person "Y" responds to the ad. But Person "X" is Leo. Can person "Y" be prosecuted for selling? Would that be called entrapment? Could person "Y" still go to jail? I thought Leo couldn't be the one to initiate the transfer. But if you asked Leo for durgs then he could prosecute you.. is that right? Kinda confused cuz I saw an episode of cops where they had this fine ass cop pretending to be a hooker waiving Rating: 5

[420ultimatesmokage]

if they convinced you to do it then it is entrapment but if went along willingly then you probably couldn't say it was entrapment. i just read stuff about entrapment on the web a while ago can't remember exactly what it said

[mcozzy1]

yeah. I'm no lawyer either. I've seen similar episodes of "Cops". That's crazy stuff. It totally looks like entrapment.

With the web stuff. I think most of the people who sell do such a good job of disguising themselves that they can't be caught. You can't bust someone over the internet. I think sellers are near impossible to track down.

I would think it would be equally difficult to bust someone for buying online. If you use a public computer for all your correspondences, they would have no way to link you to the buyer.

[bhallg2k]

That's absolutely not entrapment, my friend. The courts have traditionally defined entrapment as someone threatening you in order to make you do something illegal.

A cop soliciting a sale is not entrapment. A cop soliciting a sale and lying to you by saying he's not a cop is not entrapment. Even if he were to smoke weed with you while making or soliciting a sale, it's still not entrapment. The only way it's entrapment is if a police officer, or anyone, coerces you to do something illegal with the threat of harm to you or your family. Otherwise, it's all legal.

Be careful with whom you deal with.

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Thanks for the info bhallg2k

[Ganjamon420]

yeah what bhallg2k said. thats why before i do any sales or buys i always ask every person there if they are affiliated with any government agency. If they all say no we get high as shit lol. You can NEVER be TOO careful. Well Peace.

[bhallg2k]

yeah what bhallg2k said. thats why before i do any sales or buys i always ask every person there if they are affiliated with any government agency. If they all say no we get high as shit lol. You can NEVER be TOO careful. Well Peace.

That isn't safe. In fact, it's very dangerous. You've just been lucky.

In between hits off the biggest joint you've ever seen, a police officer could tell you that he's not a cop. Then he could hand it to you and the moment you put it to your lips, he could arrest you. And the whole thing would stand up in court.

They are allowed to lie to you. They are allowed to do illegal things in hopes of setting you at ease.

Hypothetical example, just to be clear:

You, the buyer: "Are you a cop?"

Undercover cop: "Nope."

You: "Ok, well, how much?"

Cop: "$40 for an 1/8. Here, let's try it out."

Hands you a joint. The two of you smoke it. You like it and give him money.

Cop: "You are under arrest."

Later

Judge: "Having been found guilty, you are hereby sentenced to..."

Be very careful who you deal with.

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mcozzy

how are sellers on the net impossible to track down? Even with E-gold to get your gold converted to cash you need a bank account or your name to write a check to. And guys selling on the net have to give out there info to get a webpage.

[Ganjamon420]

no no cuz they can't lie to you even if it is between hits or right when you meet them. if they say no and arrest me i get off because i was entrapped and led to believe there wasn't a police officer in the room. Peace
P.S. Read, if you are talking about 420group.com they go through many different services to keep their identity hidden and i belive with an egold account you dont have to put your name in if you dont want to, only when you write checks and they use egold as a savings account not a checking account.

[bhallg2k]

no no cuz they can't lie to you even if it is between hits or right when you meet them. if they say no and arrest me i get off because i was entrapped and led to believe there wasn't a police officer in the room. Peace

I'll say this one more time because I don't want anyone to get arrested.

Cops are allowed to lie to you. That is NOT ENTRAPMENT.

Police officers can, and will, provide you with every opportunity to commit a crime, such as buy drugs, and then arrest you the moment after you commit the crime. The courts have defined entrapment by saying "government agents" are not allowed to "unduly persuade, threaten, coerce, or harass the person, such that a normally law-abiding citizen would participate in an unlawful action."

Examples: If you ask to buy drugs, you are not considered a "normally law-abiding citizen." If you accept an offer to buy drugs, your are not a "normally law-abiding citizen." Even if the police officer lies to you and says he is not a cop, you still get pinched because your intent to commit the crime is evidenced by your actions to accept or sell drugs.

Case law: Hampton v. U.S. 425 U.S. 484 (1976), Jacobson v. U.S. 503 U.S. 540 (1993), Sherman v. U.S. 356 U.S. 369 (1958)