Quote Originally Posted by Bloomin Idiot
A note on organics.

They need to be broken down to the base elements.

So IMO in the end you end up with a potentially toxic plant ( some types of organic growing). ....There have been deaths from consuming toxins from using manure/organics (E. coli).

If you are a new grower I wouldn't worry about all the bells and whistles. You most likely wont get your monies worth and honestly..its a weed....dont overthink it...
On the whole organic = dangerous thing, depends on what it is and how it's prepared. If you are concerned about ecoli etc, don't use animal products that could be carriers in your organics. And most problems arise from people getting fresh crap on goods about to be harvested, that sort of idiocy. I personally use animal meals and guanos, but it is technically a smidge safer not to. With just a little education it can be really pretty safe to make and use your own compost etc.

I know what you mean about the bells and whistles not being right for a new gardener. I am a big fan of the "it's a weed get out of the way and it will grow" philosophy myself, but please understand, I have a curiosity beyond most cats, I always have to know that one step past what I do now.

By the way, I myself am not a new gardener. I'm not going to brag, because I'm still new here on this forum, and where I come from you don't go to someone else's house and start shooting your mouth off about yourself, but yeah, I have skills.