More like a bunch of scare tactics than chatter. If there is a door that can open/close you can bet the farm that I will close that door - even if I was a 100% drug-free donor giving a sample. If I were to ever be confronted, I would first play the "shy bladder" card and tell the collector that I cannot urinate with the door open. If this doesnt convince the collector, then my next move would be to ask "where is it in your corporations letterhead that states that the door must be left open when a donor gives a urine sample?"
I'll bet you a fin that no such directive exists.

As far as being patted down, the collector cannot lay a hand on you if the U/A is employment-related. That would constitute "groping" and is against the law. The collector can only have you remove hats, coats, and emptying of your pockets.

Now if the U/A is for court-ordered probation, thats an entirely different ball game as the person placed on probation had relinquished all of the rights normally afforded for those taking an employment-related U/A.


Well, we managed to be able to get a completely clean urine donor so we can hold on the QF for now. We will be able to get the donor urine the morning of the test. At most my gf would be waiting 3 hours based on the operating hours of the lab from when we get the sample. The sample will be going directly into the urinator as soon as it's collected. With that, we are looking at a max 4 hour winodw from getting the sample and providing the sample. Will the sample be okay upon submission to the lab after that time or should we make an effort to shorten that window of time?
The sample will be fine during this time period.