Burnt Toast,

In My original post I was referencing two different test, my pre employment test was at an actual clinic where I was administered a split sample GC/MS, this is the clinic where some people supposably were caught cheating, however I think they may have just made some error on their part and walked out of the lab, thus getting a refusal to submit Fail. I passed using Magnum synthetic there no prob.

My employer does their monthly randoms in a public bathroom style stall which would be monitored, not observed per their drug policy. Tests are administered by non medical staff ie. the security staff by SAMHSA guidelines, I assume they got their 1 hour training video or whatever to be legit. Per the drug policy if there is suspicion of tampering/adulteration/substitution a second sample will be taken under direct observation, if an employee fails to provide a sample within 3 hours that employee will be considered refusal to submit and will face immediate termination.

From all the info I have gotten from co-workers you basically get called to the supervisors office, he's like "were going for a little ride..." and takes you straight to security so there's no real notice, it just gets done some time in the first two weeks of each month. They use some third party to randomly select 10% of the employees to be tested

As far as I'm concerned, I'm as prepared as I can be and have no further questions, I appreciate the responses
Ak_haze Reviewed by Ak_haze on . Synthetic VS Real Thanks for this forum, I have learned a lot so far, my question: For my pre-employment test I used Magnum Sythetic urine after talking with the local headship guy, I live in a SMALL town, he said there was one person at the testing facility who has caught a couple people using synthetic by actually smelling the samples, fortunately when I took my test I got someone else and did pass. However my employer does random testing every month as well as post accident/cause testing, so I can be Rating: 5