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[DrBreeze]

Well since you went out of your way to quote and try to twist my words I will gladly oblige.imp: Im going to take a wild guess and start with the assumption that you are a producer. That is where I get most of this kind of flack from on the different forums on the internet.

can you tell me what you mean " That is exactly the kind of risk taking that damages the legitimacy of legal grow operations"?

I mean what I quoted, a producer willing to be put under fire...sounds like willing to break the law to me, just in fancier words.:wtf: That is seriously frowned upon. Many a producer and patient have gone under for actions like this up here is Denver. The conservatives love it too because it feeds their agenda, they hate nothing more than rule following liberals. :rasta:

then you say that self-grow is the way to go. Lets say there are 100 average patients that obtain a grow permit I would say 1/4 would be able to sustain a grow that would be enough for that patient.

You can quote me, I never said self grow was the "SOLUTION" for shortage, I said weapon, as in a valuable tool against. As in, the more you can make yourself the less you have to rely upon others for. The reason why patients fail is because they get mis-information and end up getting discouraged. If there were more honest people "HELPING" patients ,by education and guidance, there would be high success rates.

The cost of the equipment to be able to grow 4 plants and 12 veging plants is 1 1000 watt lamp 1 ballast 1 air cooled hood 1 inline fan 1 timer 3 wall mounted fans the more the better.then you need a setup to get your plants to veg. Thats just to start.Then electrical work to upgrade to 20 amp circuits. If you want to do 4 plants flowering $1500 at the least up to??????

Why do you need 20 amp circuit??? A damn microwave, toaster, electric heater, blow dryer are all 1500 watt and they still clear the 75% rule. A quick scan of one of my favorite stops in ABQ, All Seasons Gardening, has all of that and more that you listed for $650 , the cost of say...1.5 ounces of product from any given dispensary?

for some start of the art equipment. Then you have the electrical bill every month.

NM kwH prices are the same as here in Northern CO, 9-10 cents/kwh. 1000watt/9amps/18hour day $1.62 , 12hour day $1.08 , far cry from this fear mongering you are trying to employ. $30-40/ month MAX, most patients need 2 good plants, you are describing a 144 square foot grow quadrant, most just need a 400watt and some good guidance to net a good stash.:stoned:

This medical grade is not the throw a few seeds and see what comes out thing.

Well it isn't in California, or even Denver. But from the sounds of it, with as much crop failure you guys are having in NM, it sure sounds like "throw a few seeds and see". In the end I know of a few patients that have produced better product than "producers", so do not push the agenda that does not put the power in the hands of the patient. No matter what forum I bounce to I always get to ruffle a producers feather by trying to empower a PATIENT. Show me one business owning producer NOT driving a 2010 or newer car....tell me he is not "Writing off" and having a lavish lifestyle under the guise of "non- profit" POWER to the PEOPLE!!!!!!! :thumbsup: