but is lack of odour really reason to reject a sample? i've smelt my urine(hey its in the name of uh science i suppose) and it doesn't really have a smell either. i smelt in my quickfix bottle and it does have a weird smell but they may just be the bottle. And who has all had their urine sample smelt? im sort of on the fence about this one. One testclear claims its product has a smell, but it doesn't even come with enough to fill 2 oz bottle and there is no way for me to run a adulteration test on it until i'm ready to mix it and thats no good for me. Quickfix on the other hand has no smell (hopefully what im smelling is just the bottle) and has a really good track record, besides from a few bad reports which for the most part seem to be from people promoting other products or people who didn't run an adulteration test(how else could it come up invalid?) Also i know there are several people on this side of the forum who cheat randoms. Do any of you guys care to chime in on ~ how many randoms you've cheated? I've subbed with human urine once so i'm not really worried about getting the temperature right nor am i worried about quickfix passing the lab. It's just getting past the collector that worrying me a bit, but still not too much to go through with it when the time comes.