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    #11
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    New member looking for advice (6 weeks no smoking but not sure if clean)

    I know if you get Quickfix, they have a nifty little temperature gauge on the bottle of synthetic, but are those available to purchase by themselves anywhere?
    You can go to your local pharmacy store and pick up those nifty little stick-on baby forehead thermometer strips. They are identical to the temp strips on the QF bottle, as well as the temp strips used on the sample cup at the collection facility. :thumbsup:

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    #12
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    New member looking for advice (6 weeks no smoking but not sure if clean)

    Ok so I figured I'd update y'all. It has been 57 days since I stopped and at about day 50 I was still failing home tests. Tested today and I got a faint line, but it was there. It was later in the evening so I know that's not real indicative of being clean, so I will test my first void next and see if I can produce a line then. I did not dillute, just had a few drinks throughout the day. I have some 2.5 oz energy shot bottles that seem perfect to use for substitution and have hand warmers and some bandage to add support if needed so I can still sub in a pinch.

    If I am able to get a faint line with my first void or even light dillution, I should be Ok right? Or should I sub unless I get a line on the first void? Thanks folks.

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    #13
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    New member looking for advice (6 weeks no smoking but not sure if clean)

    Quote Originally Posted by valden83
    Ok so I figured I'd update y'all. It has been 57 days since I stopped and at about day 50 I was still failing home tests. Tested today and I got a faint line, but it was there. It was later in the evening so I know that's not real indicative of being clean, so I will test my first void next and see if I can produce a line then. I did not dillute, just had a few drinks throughout the day. I have some 2.5 oz energy shot bottles that seem perfect to use for substitution and have hand warmers and some bandage to add support if needed so I can still sub in a pinch.

    If I am able to get a faint line with my first void or even light dillution, I should be Ok right? Or should I sub unless I get a line on the first void? Thanks folks.
    Thc metabolite levels vary from day to day. Its just the normal ebb and flow of the human body. So just because you have past a test first thing in the morning one day doesn't mean your going to test negative the next morning. If you don't want to sub I would test myself a couple of times in a few consecutive mornings to see how its doing. If you're clean for few mornings you should be okay with some dillution the day of the test. You can buy the test strips off of ebal for about $1.30 each.

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    #14
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    New member looking for advice (6 weeks no smoking but not sure if clean)

    Quote Originally Posted by killerweed420
    Thc metabolite levels vary from day to day. Its just the normal ebb and flow of the human body. So just because you have past a test first thing in the morning one day doesn't mean your going to test negative the next morning. If you don't want to sub I would test myself a couple of times in a few consecutive mornings to see how its doing. If you're clean for few mornings you should be okay with some dillution the day of the test. You can buy the test strips off of ebal for about $1.30 each.
    Ok. Here's my update for the next day. Tested after waking up and got a very faint line. It was light but it was there. So that's a faint line yesterday evening and a second earlier today. Going to test again tomorrow morning too I think and if I get another faint line I'll feel a lot better just diluting.

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    #15
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    New member looking for advice (6 weeks no smoking but not sure if clean)

    Sounds like you should be reasonably safe with just some light dillution the morning of the test. Be sure to pee a little before filling the collection cup. The first and last of your urine stream is always the dirtiest.

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    #16
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    New member looking for advice (6 weeks no smoking but not sure if clean)

    Quote Originally Posted by killerweed420
    Sounds like you should be reasonably safe with just some light dillution the morning of the test. Be sure to pee a little before filling the collection cup. The first and last of your urine stream is always the dirtiest.
    Ok further update:

    First void today produced the faintest of ghost lines. It was there, but it was so faint that you would not see it unless you looked at it closely. Subsequent voids though seem to all be producing faint lines that you could at least take a picture of and still see.

    I have yet to get the job offer, so i am still not sure exactly when ill be testing, so I will just have to keep monitoring.

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    #17
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    New member looking for advice (6 weeks no smoking but not sure if clean)

    Here are two tests from yesterday and today, first and second void. Hopefully you can see what I mean by super faint line... I have been getting these faint lines for the last two weeks. Going on like 70 days no smoking now and would like to see if anyone has any insight. I will likely be testing early to mid next week. If these are too poor quality, ill try to get another photo next time I test and hopefully it will be better, it seems that the blurry line is more noticeable 5-10 minutes after taking the test and becomes lighter as the test dries out.

    [attachment=o285274][attachment=o285275]

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    #18
    Senior Member

    New member looking for advice (6 weeks no smoking but not sure if clean)

    Can't see any line in the pictures. Any line is all you need. Makes no difference how dark it is. Its always risky going the trying to get clean or the dillution route. Your body naturally fluctuates its metabolism every day so while you might show clean one day you may show up dirty a day or a week after. It really boils down to how bad you want this job. If its something that you really have to have then subbing is always the safest way to go.
    Myself as an example I'm 6'1" 280lbs, it would take me probably 90 days to get reasonably clean and even then it would be risky for me to try dillution. I just always sub. A lot less stressful. I don't have to change my lifestyle because some nazi thinks I'm going to be smoking on the job. Once you sub once it becomes very easy after that. Just get the temp within range and your golden.

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    #19
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    New member looking for advice (6 weeks no smoking but not sure if clean)

    Quote Originally Posted by killerweed420
    Can't see any line in the pictures. Any line is all you need. Makes no difference how dark it is. Its always risky going the trying to get clean or the dillution route. Your body naturally fluctuates its metabolism every day so while you might show clean one day you may show up dirty a day or a week after. It really boils down to how bad you want this job. If its something that you really have to have then subbing is always the safest way to go.
    Myself as an example I'm 6'1" 280lbs, it would take me probably 90 days to get reasonably clean and even then it would be risky for me to try dillution. I just always sub. A lot less stressful. I don't have to change my lifestyle because some nazi thinks I'm going to be smoking on the job. Once you sub once it becomes very easy after that. Just get the temp within range and your golden.

    Yeah you and I have similar body types. The wife has been peeing clean for a few weeks now, so I will probably just sub using her urine. I have a couple of those knockoff 5 hour energy shot bottles (sterilized and cleaned, 2.5 oz) and tried crotching one the other day. After about 40 minutes it brought the temp up to 96.7 so I think that should be just fine for the test day. For some reason when I tried the heat pads, the temp shot waaaay up over 105 which I thought was way too hot. I think I will be fine with just using my body temp. Granted, I was using just tap water, so maybe human urine reacts a bit differently to temperatures?

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    #20
    Senior Member

    New member looking for advice (6 weeks no smoking but not sure if clean)

    I don't use heat pads for the same reason, it gets too hot. Take a digital thermometer or go to the drug store and pickup a temp strip to put on the side of the bottle to make sure you have the temp right. If you use a digital thermometer be sure to stick it in your sock, not in a pocket.

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