Quote Originally Posted by killerweed420
Can't see any line in the pictures. Any line is all you need. Makes no difference how dark it is. Its always risky going the trying to get clean or the dillution route. Your body naturally fluctuates its metabolism every day so while you might show clean one day you may show up dirty a day or a week after. It really boils down to how bad you want this job. If its something that you really have to have then subbing is always the safest way to go.
Myself as an example I'm 6'1" 280lbs, it would take me probably 90 days to get reasonably clean and even then it would be risky for me to try dillution. I just always sub. A lot less stressful. I don't have to change my lifestyle because some nazi thinks I'm going to be smoking on the job. Once you sub once it becomes very easy after that. Just get the temp within range and your golden.

Yeah you and I have similar body types. The wife has been peeing clean for a few weeks now, so I will probably just sub using her urine. I have a couple of those knockoff 5 hour energy shot bottles (sterilized and cleaned, 2.5 oz) and tried crotching one the other day. After about 40 minutes it brought the temp up to 96.7 so I think that should be just fine for the test day. For some reason when I tried the heat pads, the temp shot waaaay up over 105 which I thought was way too hot. I think I will be fine with just using my body temp. Granted, I was using just tap water, so maybe human urine reacts a bit differently to temperatures?