Recent Pre-Employment Drug Test (Substitution w/ Synthetic)

[YouLiveAndLearn]

Hey everyone,

I'd been looking for a job for a little while now but didn't want to settle for a crap job like some of my previous ones. I'm a college student and all my prior jobs had been in fast food joints and I absolutely hated them. I've always been a bit of a tech-junkie. I love everything electronics, computers, video games, etc.

So I applied at a couple places that I felt I would actually enjoy working at. One of them was Best Buy and to be honest I didn't think I was going to hear from any of them. However, I ended up getting a call from Best Buy last week and went in for two interviews. Both of the interviews went very well especially the second one with the main general manager of the store. I had originally been considered for just a standard entry-level cashier position but the General Manager after speaking with me said that it would be a waste for me to be there and essentially promoted me to sales.

Anyways, enough of that I was just excited and happy to finally be getting a job I believe I will enjoy.

Of course though, they required a drug test and I had no chance of getting clean within the week between my two interviews and when I had to take the test. I immediately thought that I would do substitution. I tried calling around to some of my friends to see if they happened to be clean but all of them had smoked at least a little bit so I wasn't going to risk that.

My only option at that point was to get some synthetic urine. So I ordered the brand "Ultra Pure" by Ultra Klean after reading a review or two that had been good. However, after further research I found out that the most recommended brand was QuickFix. At that point though, there wasn't much of anything I could do.

The lab I went to for the drug test was LabCorp this past Thursday (4/19). I was able to get the temperature within the required range of 90-100 degrees. It was probably around 96-97 degrees when I handed the sample back to the tech. The tech did not make an actual notation of what the temperature was though, she simply just wrote yes in the box next to the question. So at that point, I figured I was in the clear right?

Unfortunately, upon getting home being a little bit anxious about getting busted using synthetics I found out that they have apparently developed more advanced screenings and have been cracking down a lot more on them. I read that the majority of the cases have been happening in Oregon, Hawaii, and Florida. I live on Ohio so that made me feel a little bit better but I'm still very concerned that I'll fail.

The General Manager at Best Buy told me that he would likely have the information Monday (today) and he would give me a call. I have not gotten a call from Best Buy or the MRO. I know that generally speaking, when it comes to drug tests no news is usually good news but it worries me that they could be taking time to try and see if it is a synthetic or real urine.

I also read somewhere, that usually if you've failed a drug test you will hear within 24 hours or so. When you actually pass the test it can take longer 3-5 days so that the MRO and/or Lab can look over the data and confirm it.

What do all of you think?

I really could use some reassurance as I am going a little bit crazy with anticipation. I just wish they would call me already no matter what the outcome is so that I can stop thinking about it.

YouLiveAndLearn Reviewed by YouLiveAndLearn on 04-23-2012. Recent Pre-Employment Drug Test (Substitution w/ Synthetic) Hey everyone, I'd been looking for a job for a little while now but didn't want to settle for a crap job like some of my previous ones. I'm a college student and all my prior jobs had been in fast food joints and I absolutely hated them. I've always been a bit of a tech-junkie. I love everything electronics, computers, video games, etc. So I applied at a couple places that I felt I would actually enjoy working at. One of them was Best Buy and to be honest I didn't think I was going to Rating: 5

[Burnt Toast]

Unfortunately, upon getting home being a little bit anxious about getting busted using synthetics I found out that they have apparently developed more advanced screenings and have been cracking down a lot more on them. I read that the majority of the cases have been happening in Oregon, Hawaii, and Florida.

What youve read were anecdotal reports without a shread of substantiation. None of these reports show any legitimate official documentation stating the reason why the synthetic didnt work for them. So until such documentation is provided, all of these anecdotes should be taken with a box of salt.

UltraPure is basically a Quick Fix clone. As long as the batch was unexpired and kept away from direct sunlight, its fine.

[YouLiveAndLearn]

What youve read were anecdotal reports without a shread of substantiation. None of these reports show any legitimate official documentation stating the reason why the synthetic didnt work for them. So until such documentation is provided, all of these anecdotes should be taken with a box of salt.

UltraPure is basically a Quick Fix clone. As long as the batch was unexpired and kept away from direct sunlight, its fine.

Thank you very much!

That makes me feel much, much better. I am 99% sure the Ultra Pure wasn't expired because it apparently has a shelf-life of 2-3 years and the expiration tag on the bottle said "3/15" which at first had me concerned that it meant it had expired on March 15th. However, after reading how long it stays good I figured that must of meant March of 2015. I mean it would be stupid for them to put just a month and day on the expiration if it lasts for 2-3 years right?

It is now 6pm where I live so I doubt I will be hearing anything tonight but hopefully I should know by tomorrow.

I will be sure to post my results either way.

[YouLiveAndLearn]

Alright so I need some advice. This would be especially helpful from anyone that may have failed a pre-employment drug test in the past or even passed for that matter.

As I explained in my first post in this thread, I used Ultra Pure synthetic urine for my pre-employment drug test. I was hired on Wednesday last week pending a drug test and background check. I went and took the drug test on Thursday last week at 3:00pm at a LabCorp location. After the interview on Wednesday the GM told me he would be in touch with me by Monday most likely, maybe Tuesday.

It is now almost 9pm where I live and I have not heard anything from the Lab/MRO or my employer. I am starting to get a little bit annoyed more than anything. I just want to know if I passed this damn test or not.

My question is how long did it take for you to hear back from your employer or the Lab/MRO?

Considering that it has now been 4 full days and tomorrow will mark 5 full days since I took the drug test does that mean I more than likely have passed the drug test? I have read a couple of places that generally when you fail a drug test you hear more quickly than when you have passed a drug test. Most people hear within 24-48 hours of taking the test.

If I don't hear anything from my employer by tomorrow morning should I call and just play stupid? Maybe ask when my start date will be? Or something like what documents will I need to bring in on my first day? I don't want to raise any suspicions.

My feeling on this whole thing is that had I failed, I would of heard by now. If anything it is my background check that is holding things up. Although, I have nothing serious on my record. The worst thing I have is a Wreckless Op from 2 years ago and an underage drinking violation from when I was 19. Other than that my record is clean. No felonies or anything like that and I'm not applying for a driver's job so the wreckless op shouldn't matter.

Any advice, thoughts, etc would be hugely appreciated.

[Burnt Toast]

Perhaps the GM was tied up or sidetracked with matters related to the business and simply didnt have the chance to contact you.

If you dont hear anything by tomorrow afternoon, then by all means give them a call first thing Thursday morning and ask for your 'start date'. The employers response there would shed light on whether you are indeed good to go, or if the employer had simply moved on to the next applicant for hire.

Never inquire about the test results. A person who is truly drug-free would never do this because, being drug-free, theres no reason to do so. Doing so would only raise suspicious eyebrows, particularly if you want to be viewed by the company as a "drug-free" person.

[YouLiveAndLearn]

Perhaps the GM was tied up or sidetracked with matters related to the business and simply didnt have the chance to contact you.

If you dont hear anything by tomorrow afternoon, then by all means give them a call first thing Thursday morning and ask for your 'start date'. The employers response there would shed light on whether you are indeed good to go, or if the employer had simply moved on to the next applicant for hire.

Never inquire about the test results. A person who is truly drug-free would never do this because, being drug-free, theres no reason to do so. Doing so would only raise suspicious eyebrows, particularly if you want to be viewed by the company as a "drug-free" person.

True, but as I understand it the MRO must attempt to contact the employee at least 3 times before they can even contact the employer with a failed drug test. Or am I wrong with that understanding?

Also, as far as background checks go (which I know isn't what this forum is dedicated to) a Wreckless Op traffic violation wouldn't be something that would stop an employer from hiring someone would it? I mean if it was for a driving position maybe but I've been hired as a sales person on the floor.

[Burnt Toast]

True, but as I understand it the MRO must attempt to contact the employee at least 3 times before they can even contact the employer with a failed drug test. Or am I wrong with that understanding?

Depends on whether its a DOT regulated test or not. In non-DOT situations, the party paying for the test gets first dibs on the results. If you are contacted by the MRO at all, then consider it a service on the MRO's part and not an obligation.

Also, as far as background checks go (which I know isn't what this forum is dedicated to) a Wreckless Op traffic violation wouldn't be something that would stop an employer from hiring someone would it? I mean if it was for a driving position maybe but I've been hired as a sales person on the floor.

Sorry, but this is outside the topic of drug testing and therefore, is not up for discussion in the Drug Testing forum.

[YouLiveAndLearn]

Alright, that's fine I just thought I'd try asking about the background test.

Is there a way for me to figure out whether or not it was a DOT regulated test or not?

Thanks for all your help. It is much appreciated.

EDIT: Well, just looked up what DOT meant since I really had no idea. I guess since the job is at Best Buy it isn't a DOT test I'd assume. So I guess I may have failed and that isn't why I have heard anything. That sucks.

[YouLiveAndLearn]

Well I will be sure to post my results as soon as I get them as I plan on calling my employer tomorrow if I don't hear anything by 1pm.

If I ended up not getting the job it'll almost for sure be because I was caught using synthetic urine. I guess this would be a warning to anybody considering using synthetic urine soon or in the future.

[webdox]

Well I will be sure to post my results as soon as I get them as I plan on calling my employer tomorrow if I don't hear anything by 1pm.

If I ended up not getting the job it'll almost for sure be because I was caught using synthetic urine. I guess this would be a warning to anybody considering using synthetic urine soon or in the future.

Being caught using synthetic urine has never once been shown to be anything other than user error and/or lack of QC and in many cases outright bullshit/lies by shills with agendas. I guess in light of that people can and should continue to use synthetic urine now and in the future as long as they perform QC and turn in a sample between 90-100 degrees.