LED grow NO.2, testing the Pro-Grow 260 and Rhino Seeds.

[silent leprechaun]

Hey guys and gals

So here we go again ! Grow number 2 with the Pro-Grow 260 LED light and some interesting strains I bought from the Rhino seed company; Big Bang 2, Chronic and Blue Cheese Yummy ! My little babies are less than 1 week old now but coming along fine. Most of my seeds were bought at feminisedseeds.co.uk

So I have decided on growing just 4 plants this time to minimise cramping the tent, maximising light dispersion and hopefully yield ! If you are wondering what will happen to the other 6 seeds in the photo above then I will say that they will be getting some sun this summer

I will hopefully be blooming in week 3.5 or 4 as wish to keep the plants short, but not too short.

So here are some photos of them in peat cups under the Pro-grow 260 on just the blue spectrum for veg and 4 x 20w CFL.

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silent leprechaun Reviewed by silent leprechaun on 04-17-2012. LED grow NO.2, testing the Pro-Grow 260 and Rhino Seeds. Hey guys and gals So here we go again ! Grow number 2 with the Pro-Grow 260 LED light and some interesting strains I bought from the Rhino seed company; Big Bang 2, Chronic and Blue Cheese :) Yummy ! My little babies are less than 1 week old now but coming along fine. Most of my seeds were bought at feminisedseeds.co.uk So I have decided on growing just 4 plants this time to minimise cramping the tent, maximising light dispersion and hopefully yield ! If you are wondering what will Rating: 5

[lamen25]

Hey Silent Lep, what's your temp, and what CFL bulbs are you using? I'm glad to see you are using the LED's. What's your thought on the LED? Gives me something to look forward to. I'm a first time grower and I've got a post on this thread also using 2 UFO and 2 CFL's, but my plant is quite small for day 28. I thought I saw another post by you and your plants looked pretty good using the LED's. Good Job

[silent leprechaun]

I am using 4 x 20w 2700k. The LED is a Pro-Grow 260. I really like this LED light. I dont think I will ever use HPS or other hid systems.

I am thinking of upping the 2700k CFL in this grow but just during bloom. I was thinking of hooking up 6 x 85w, 2700k CFL during the bloom stage.

The 4 x 20w are keeping the tent at a nice 21-22 degrees or so. The 6 x 85w will increase the temps but I have my extractor always on. It wont be too bad on the plants. I think they will love it but I will need to water a little more often. But using LED and CFL means I water the 2 gallon buckets about once every 5 days or so... Watering isnt really an issue with LED & CFL.

You mentioned the size of your plant. All I can say is maybe your LED are poor quality or you are making a mistake in soil and feeding. The thing about growing weed is that there are many different things you could be going wrong on and this has an effect on the plants. for example I could have waited too long to repot and bound the roots... or the lights are perfect but the soil is very bad quality... there are so many variables. I would need all the info you could give me. Not just on nutes but even down to soil mixes, plant sizes, exact light types and research you did on them before buying, pot sizes, your set-up as in air intake/out-take, air movement, humidity, temperature, how often you water as so many over water, drainage, light heights and distance.

In my signature below you can follow my first grow and compare your week 4 to my week 4. But remember that my lights are different to yours.

Take care

[lamen25]

Great Info Silent Leprechaun, Being a newbie, I'm pretty sure I've made all the mistakes on this first grow. But here we go with what I did.
Built 4x4x6 Grow Room in my basement, using sheet rock walls with white enamel paint. It was what I had at the time and I read you should use flat. I'm using 2 curtains that block out light for my doors with velcro for opening/closing. The basement floor is concrete. Mixed Miracle Grow Potting soil and Miracle Grow Vermiculite 60/40 for the soil. Purchased feminized White Widow seeds online from The Altitude. My light is a 100 watt Lighthouse UFO LED from Amazon, and after germinating the seeds for a few days by soaking in water first, until it sank to the bottom, and placed in paper towels ,the root emerged. Planted in 3" Square Peat Pots with soil mixture above. After day 3 in peat pot, under the LED Light only with timer using the 18/6 schedule, and no heater, no fan, no humidity gauge, the first 2 leaves appeared, and that's the start of Vegetation Day 1 - 1.5". Also, on Day 1, I planted the peat pot into a 5 gallon approx. grow container with the same soil mixture above. Day 2-3" watered. Day 3- 3.75" watered. Day 6 - 4" watered, and added 42 watt CFL 2700K (150 watt equivalent). I can't remember exactly, but somewhere around this time I noticed these little gnats, and they hung around until recently. Day 9 - 4" Watered, added heater, Temp 82 F. Day 10 added ProsourceWorldwide Illuminator 90 watt UFO LED also. Noticed 2nd set of new leaves. Day 11 - 5" watered. Day 12 - 5" watered, 2nd set of leaves 1". Day 14 - Watered, 3rd and 4th sets of leaf growth. Day 16, increased temp to 85 F. Why?, Because of the video that I watched about using the Prosource Illuminator LED. ProSource Worldwide Guide for LED Grow Lights - YouTube, Also it was a little humid but I didn't have a measuring gauge. Day 17 4" watered Temp 80, because that 85 was kinda hard to maintain, and humidity. Day 20 added 6" desk Fan Walmart, to the top left back corner of the grow room. Immediately noticed the even warmth within the grow room and 85 was easier to maintain. Day 22 - (And the Hits just keep on coming) - After reading about LST and Topping, Yes I did. Topped between the 4th and 5th node. 5" tall. Day 25 - You are gonna love this. Well I've read that nutes are normally administered by the 3rd week roughly, so I did. Mixed 1/2 tsp of Miracle Grow (Don't forget Newbie Here) All Purpose Plant Food 24-8-16. Watered 1 Liter. Day 29 fed up with my little flying neighbors, so I transplanted into a different potting soil mix called Everygreen Potting Soil which looks like small chunks of composted bark, but drains well. Also did some reading about those gnats, and used a homemade mixture of Hydrogen Peroxide 1 part and 4 parts water. Supposedly H2O2 and Water kills gnats and promotes root growth. Watered on Day 29 Today is Day 32. No watering, but I (here we go again), did some reading whereby you can use a nail by pushing it into the soil to aerate the roots. I have another seedling planted in this Evergreen soil mixture in a 1 gallon grow container without the 3" Peat Cup. Seems like this cup holds moisture and I want to see how well this new seedling grows without the cup.

For about the first 12 days, my LED lights were approx 15 to 20 " above the plants. Now 10" and the 2 CFL's are about 3" above the plant. Well that's about all I can think of. When I look back at my notes, at what I did to this plant, I should be arrested. LOL Simply put, somebody's been a little impatient. Don't think I will ever have anymore than 2 plants growing period. As far as CO2, (here we go again, LOL) from reading it has been stated that if you have a small closed grow, simply opening the entrance will give it enough CO2. I don't have any idea if that's true, but I'm giving it a try. Here are a couple pics, the first one is after I topped, and the second one is the latest pic. Ok Leprechaun, sprinkle some gold dust on me. My thought now is to learn how not to water so much. Don't know if this plant will continue to produce, but that's ok. I have learned how to overdue everything, so maybe this next grow I won't. Future plans are to purchase a humidity gauge, and a Temp gauge. Right now I'm using the Temperature gauge on the heater. It's automatic, but I know the temp in the basement outside the Grow room is cool, even in the daytime when it's 80 degrees F outside. Thank you again Leprechaun. Also, forgot to mention Day 27 added replaced the 40 watt 150 watt equivalent, with 2 23 watts 5000K CFL's. Attachment 284123
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[lamen25]

Also I've been reading about inline charcoal etc., but haven't bought anything yet.

[lamen25]

BTW Leprechaun, sorry for taking up so much space on your thread.

[silent leprechaun]

no problem, normally when someone starts a grow journal you wouldnt post your own grow in it, its a little frowned upon here. Just some advice for the future

You should probably start a grow journal yourself. It helps not only others but also yourself as you can go back and view previous grows you did.

This should prevent you from making similar mistake in different grows and also lets others give you advise on things you could do better.

Good luck with it

[lamen25]

Thanks Silent Leprechaun, I thought it didn't look right when i posted my info. I said to myself, this is Silent Leprechaun's space. I'm confused on something. When I click on LED Logger, I'm taken to your Grow Journal page. Is this the typical way persons create Journal's, or by simply creating a Thread here in Indoor Growing kinda like I did about 10 threads down from yours?
This is where I should have posted this info.

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...fos-2-cfl.html

[silent leprechaun]

I create a grow journal on cannabis.com and I also created a free wordpress blog page.

So technically I am posting it twice. Its not typical. Setting up your own blog page is kinda like having your own website in a way.

You have a lot of info in your post here. You should try breaking long entries it into paragraphs as it's easier to read that way.

You will get more responses if people can read it easily. Just a tip

Take care.

[lamen25]

Question? Is there anyway maybe a Admin or you can delete the posts that I've made with pics etc. I will post it on my thread using the tips you have given me. I hope it can be deleted.