Thanks for the help, I appreciate it. I did just go get the white covers for the hydroton and my hydro store so that is done and yes I will put timmers on them like you said just had halo going 24/7. As far as the trimming goes the book I was reading said to trim (bottom 2 branches) once the plant had a total of 6 branches. I did that and also topped the top to just end up with 4 branches that then SCROG out from there. Maybe I trimmed the bottom 2 too late and that is what caused the pinch on the two plants. I have other younger plants going as back up just very frustrated in losing the time I had invested, live and learn I guess. I will give update pics on the new venture of mine. Thanks again for the help