I agree with everybody in this thread. Lulz, I think you were on target when you mentioned the science and engineering students in Iran, they will probably be the end of the Mullahs or whatever they are, not nukes. same with Russia. it is human nature to be free and independent. it will be the force of nature that free's Iran and Russia. :twocents: but that said, greed is powerful force of nature too and war profiteering is big business so who knows what will happen in the mid east.

Of course it hasn't worked for the Chinese yet or the North Koreans, altho some progress with Ill jr. seemed to have happened today. I didn't vote for Obama but repubs are going to have tuff fight against him in my opinion, unless they nominate the one non-statist, real constitutionalist, Ron Paul.