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02-16-2012, 01:12 PM #1
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"negative dilute", can I still sub?
Thanks Burnt, I knew I could count on you

First, I mistakenly wrote "SAM" but it's "SAP", as anyone who has had more than one of these before knows...
But no they didn't tell me that. It's for a travel healthcare staffing company and the guy on the phone just said literally, "Your urine screen came back negative dilute, we'll have to have you go in and take another test. I'm overnighting the Chain of Custody forms to you." I said, "I must've drank too much fluid"
and he said, "Yeah that's usually the case, it's no problem."
I was going for just a little* dilute because I was passing Wallgreen's $20 home tests consistently without diluting, (4-5x a week smoker, B grade mostly, clean since Dec29th, 125lb, 5'8'' really fast metabolism and very little body fat.) Never tried first piss of the day. So anyway I skipped brkfst, had a cup of coffee, 2x B12 (x2days), and 1.5 32oz Gatorade bottles right up to the test around 12ish. I was pretty clear, not gonna lie. No creatine, no aspirin
I feel about 90% I could just use my own stuff midstream as long as it wasn't first and pass, but I'm paranoid right? and want to be 100%, so I'm deciding to sub. I'll let you know how it goes.
One thing that slightly bothers me Burnt, is that while I agree it's almost impossible to find actual web evidence of someone failing a test in the US by subbing besides it being outside temp., dirty or dilute, and that it is illegal to test for hormone levels, your statement, and that by others, that they ONLY test for banned substances is patently false. Read your post- Creatinine and specific gravity are two tests that do not involve banned substances and are involved in nearly every urine test for validity purposes. So it's not that much of a stretch to think they could check other biomarkers and compare. Still I cannot find one reliable piece of testimony of someone failing PURELY for using someone else's urine.cleverclover Reviewed by cleverclover on . "negative dilute", can I still sub? I need to retake a SAM-10 50 urine screen for a hospital position. The first came back negative dilute. I have read through countless threads including N2 SUB and DILUTE threads entirely (thanks!) and plan on using N2's sub method w/ a 2oz bottle, a hand warmer, and my wife's urine which I've practiced :) but my question is, can I still sub? 1. Will they compare this sample (not my urine) in any way with the sample I gave them before (my urine diluted too much) that would cause me to fail Rating: 5
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