thanx CGI and FARMER.i always do clones but my bud had these from a bud he got. it was my mistake but after it showed female signs i figured i was cool. yeah its got big buds on it but at one node theres a sac. thought that was what a hermi was. ive gotten seeds close to the bottom of finished plants before and they were all females guaranteed, but this has bud clusters and of course the sac on the hermi. if the seeds can be used ill have some VERY interesting OG,s.let me know how it goes Farmer. both keep an eye on the grow ive got in Hydro. ive had probs with rockwool slabs retaining too much water thats why i went to the blocks, for more control thanx for keepin an eye on me CGI ! a fresh start, fresh grow should help my situation