Question about Cloning in late flowering. Need advice

[Salvein211]

Ok so like the title implies, I cloned my White Skunk and Blackberry strains when they were 2 weeks, maybe 3, from harvest. Why? Well I really wanted to see if it was possible, and I didn't really take into account a few things (obviously). I have a lack of space and didn't see having two separate rooms, one for veg, one for flower, so I wanted to see if this method worked. Ok, on to the question!

My clones took root, took quite a while to start growing again and change back to veg, but they have and are doing very well. (All of them have multiple cola's!) So in a sense, these are 2nd generation clones since they've had a flowering process. My question is: If I were to take additional clones from these 2nd gen clones, would my potency die off soon? I know the ideal way is to keep a mother plant(s) in veg for it's whole life, and take your clones from that as you need them. But since I've flowered them once, would it be worth it to keep these strains alive, or start over? I'd be making 2 of these 2nd gen clones mother plants... one for both strains. Which would make me reconfigure my setup a little but it seems like it's a must. It's not like growing a new strain is a bad thing however ... :jointsmile:

Advice appreciated, thanks.

Salvein211 Reviewed by Salvein211 on 01-03-2012. Question about Cloning in late flowering. Need advice Ok so like the title implies, I cloned my White Skunk and Blackberry strains when they were 2 weeks, maybe 3, from harvest. Why? Well I really wanted to see if it was possible, and I didn't really take into account a few things (obviously). I have a lack of space and didn't see having two separate rooms, one for veg, one for flower, so I wanted to see if this method worked. Ok, on to the question! My clones took root, took quite a while to start growing again and change back to veg, but Rating: 5

[GaGrown]

It's possible to this... But.. Not advised.. Thet are gonna take forever to root. For the simple fact that when you are in flower they are projecting their energy to just that.... Flower. When ya take the cutting and put it under 18/6 schedule you are in a sense tryin' to reveg and veg at the same time... They are two seperate entities.. If ya took cuttings in flower.. Then it should had been during the first couple of days into the cycle.. Cutting fom vegg state is the sure fire way to get roots to produce.. They are gonna concentrate on revegging and not growing roots. As long as you keep them misted and your medium moist and humidity high,Then all that you will see happen is the stems start to rot. The foliar feeding is the only thing keeping them looking like they are gonna make it.


I keep a fresh mama for cuttings.. I change her after about 3-4 years.. I keep them going by revegging. Never compromising potentcy.. But a clone from a clone from a clone,etc.. Will eventually lose it vigor as well as potentcy.Hope I shinned a light on things for ya!

Ga.

[Salvein211]

Thanks for the reply.
The clones I took from the flowering plants are very well rooted and have grown to over 1' . They are nice and bushy with a strong root system. I was just wondering if I were to clone these 2nd gen plants, how long I could keep these clones as mothers before potency would linger off.. ?

[GaGrown]

Flower the clones ya have and reveg. You lose nothing! Same plant same traits.. The clones will act a lil' different than the first clones and so on. Did that make sense? Revegging saves everthing you have worked so hard to keep! Have you ever done it?


Ga.

[Salvein211]

Hm... I have never revegged, but I have thought about it and know what it is. Instead of chopping your beautiful ladies to a bare stump, you clip the buds off as best you can, and then change light spectrum and time to 18/6. I've heard you only get about half the yield as before, and once you reveg, you might as well yard out the plants after that, correct? You can't just keep revegging your plants, can you?

Thanks Ga for your input

[GaGrown]

Thats how I keep mine 3-4 years.Sometimes I won't even take cuttings... Reveg then flower and back to reveg. Never ending cycle. I've never had one lose vigor.. They even produce more than the first flowering at times or the same.. Never been less. But I use a 10/14 flowering schedule. And since I changed from 12/12.. They have all been better producing. The trick to the reveg is trimming the rootball and transplanting the day of harvest. Go on and get all the stress outta the way at one time. Instead of stressing it several times.

Ga.

[Salvein211]

Interesting.. I run hydro btw, so I can almost get away from trimming the rootball... 5gal buckets with airstones. So right after you pick your fruit, you reveg at 18/6 until flower, which you then roll with 14/10 correct? About how long do you reveg before you hit your flower switch again? I guess this completely differs upon your setup.

[GaGrown]

Ahhhh... Makes sense! I'm about to flower and reveg a DWC plant. Don't roll with 10/14! That is what I run the strains I grow. It may have adverse affects on your strain.. Lots of things! This is just an experiment of mine with what I have. None tested outside of the 2 of mine. Oh... There is another strain. So 3..

Same set up as me.. I got 10 inch net pots and 5 gal. bucket. Dual air pump 3 inch round airstone. Still won't hurt to cut the root ends off some as soon as you harvest. That's what I'm gonna do without givin' it a second thought.. It'll be fine!

Ga.

[CanGroIt]

I thought it was impossible to root a cutting that late into flowering???.... I've never had a reason to try....just thought that the hormones wouldn't react....

If what you say is true....please post your cloning method.... Inquiring minds want to know how you did it....

CGI::::::

[GanjaRobPDX]

Its up to you whether or not you want to reveg your plant or if the genetics are something that really helps you. If you are using it for a medical condition and it helps, consider saving it.
If not, know your plant will be negatively effected by revegging. even though you cloned it, thats essentially what you,ve done. every time you do this it is severely stressful to the plant. Stress can manifest many problems in many forms: slower growth, lower potency, lower yields, hermies especially.
Just be aware of these things as you experiment.

Hope this helps...