polishpollack we actually have some crazy spots like that on the unknown seed and its the tallest. do you think magical would help with that instead of epsom? wouldn't the salt build up and kind of hinder her like any other salt build up? and definetly hear ya on the cloning thing! might have it down now! love those rapid rooters. got some technaflora nutes we're still playing with. thank you all for the replies and we will definetly get some more pics up to let you all know what happened.