No, I think you read me correctly alright, Perhaps I'm just impressed with the early (vegatative) effects of these 'hot' LEDs, and trying to rationalize the expense. But since what you are telling is, for me 'no harm, no foul' because I can still use them for the veg cycle and move to a '400 CMH for the bloom. Hindsight proably would have gone T5s to veg, way cheaper. Again thanks for your post Bigs, I'm old enough to know I don't know much, just young enough to want to learn at lot more. Oh and do you think that 400 CMH would cover a 4' X4' area well?