My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil

[1vanguy]

what experience have you seen with tumors and the oil? do you know of anyone using it for a dog with cancer? mine was just diagnosed and looking to help her ASAP. thanks for your fast reply.

[GrowGoddess]

what experience have you seen with tumors and the oil? do you know of anyone using it for a dog with cancer? mine was just diagnosed and looking to help her ASAP. thanks for your fast reply.

I have heard of people using the RSO with dogs and have only heard good things. I wish I knew of RSO before I had to put my dog down a few years ago. I am sure I could have made his life better. His issue was old age and pain, no tumors or anything like that.

Me personally, I would not hesitate to treat my dog with RSO. Start off small and work up. Pretty much the same treatment process as with in a human, of course you will have to alter based upon the size and weight of the animal. It may only require a max of 1/4 gram per day depending on the dog's weight.

If you to try it, please let us know how it works out. Do not be alarmed if your dog seems "drunk". I did give my old dog some cooked cannabis before, and it did give him comfort, but it knocked him out. I had no idea of the benefits of cannabis at that time otherwise I would have given him some every evening so he could sleep. If I had known about RSO, I would have given him maintenance doses three times per day for his pain. He was old and arthritic, a large breed dog.

To me, my dogs are always considered a member of the family and will be treated as such. I understand your concerns.

[1vanguy]

The dr I spoke to suggested I start with just 2 mg of thc a day, along with a moderate dose of CBD. Then every few days increase the thc by 2 to 5 mgs a day. From my understanding RSO is so high in thc that this would be impossible? Should I just get a cbd powder that has a little thc?

[catbuds]

I'm so glag you found Growgoddess (or she found you)! & I'm glad you found a Dr. Keep in mind RSO has both THC & CBD. You could always try canna butter. Ok, we need Weeze & Crystal.

[1vanguy]

I'm so glag you found Growgoddess (or she found you)! & I'm glad you found a Dr. Keep in mind RSO has both THC & CBD. You could always try canna butter. Ok, we need Weeze & Crystal.

thanks again. but maybe too much thc in RSO?it would be hard to get a small enough drop of oil wouldnt it..i read 1/3 of a drop is pretty strong for a human.

[Weezard]

Howzit 1vanguy?

The ratio of THC:CBD in resin is variable.
And the CBD inhibits the high of the THC as it's ratio increases.
It depends on the strain that it is extracted from, when harvested, how it is dried, and what extraction method is used.
The skill of the operator is a major factor as well.
That and the concentration of THC:CBD in the original resin is also variable.

So, every batch of oil is different in ratio, and concentration.
And you build a tolerance.
(I worked my way up to 1.25 Grams per day in 2 doses for a 190 pound male.)

Sound impossible to titrate?
It's actually not.
Weigh the dog, and do the math.
Then titration is easy.

Add one gram of oil to half a kilo, (about a pound) of butter.
Melt, stir, put it in the fridge.
That will give you about 2 milligrams of RSO per gram of butter.
If your oil 's concentration of THC is 50%, that makes 1 milligram of active ingredient per gram of cannabutter.
Then dosage is easy, almost all dogs love butter.

You will be able to tell when to back off, and when to increase dosage by the dogs reaction.
Attachment 297993
They get stoner's eyes just like we do.
Which can take over half an hour, so be cautious and always wait one hour before checking and or increasing.

You have a good doctor there.
Do you know the location, and type of cancer?
More information will help us, help your dog/

Aloha,
Weeze (Lover of all things doggish.)

[1vanguy]

Cheers for the info. I won't be cooking any oil at home, especially since I am renting a basement suite from a cop lol..not sure if he'd care or not.

The dr is a specialist for humans I reached out to via email and that was his off the record suggestion..he isn't local for me.

She has hemangiosarcoma, which was in her spleen. They removed the spleen. They believe it usually spreads elsewhere within 1 to 3 months and can show up in the liver, heart, lungs. She is 11, 60 lb husky.

One nice dispensary here just gave me a free bottle of CBD extract from alcohol..they said theres a small amount of THC in it..forget they said around 5 percent or so, though theres no info on the bottle and they didn't seem that knowledgable. I took a spray and felt a very nice mellow stone. Gave my dog a small lick off my finger and she seems normal, guessing I will give her a bit more.

Howzit 1vanguy?

The ratio of THC:CBD in resin is variable.
And the CBD inhibits the high of the THC as it's ratio increases.
It depends on the strain that it is extracted from, when harvested, how it is dried, and what extraction method is used.
The skill of the operator is a major factor as well.
That and the concentration of THC:CBD in the original resin is also variable.

So, every batch of oil is different in ratio, and concentration.
And you build a tolerance.
(I worked my way up to 1.25 Grams per day in 2 doses for a 190 pound male.)

Sound impossible to titrate?
It's actually not.
Weigh the dog, and do the math.
Then titration is easy.

Add one gram of oil to half a kilo, (about a pound) of butter.
Melt, stir, put it in the fridge.
That will give you about 2 milligrams of RSO per gram of butter.
If your oil 's concentration of THC is 50%, that makes 1 milligram of active ingredient per gram of cannabutter.
Then dosage is easy, almost all dogs love butter.

You will be able to tell when to back off, and when to increase dosage by the dogs reaction.
Attachment 297993
They get stoner's eyes just like we do.
Which can take over half an hour, so be cautious and always wait one hour before checking and or increasing.

You have a good doctor there.
Do you know the location, and type of cancer?
More information will help us, help your dog/

Aloha,
Weeze (Lover of all things doggish.)

[crystaliscious]

Making an extract out of green material will increase the CBd while the thc is pretty low.... I know you aren't making it but maybe you could find an extract made from green. I would give 2-3 times a day, don't be alarmed if he sleeps a lot at first. He will form somewhat of a tolerance. My cat likes me to rub a little infused budder or coconut oil on his fur and he titrates himself- good luck!!

[kwilal]

Well, it's been two months since I last posted and thought I'd give a minor update. While there is plenty of feedback on how to make RSO in this thread there's not much input from those who are actually taking it. Last night was my final (hopefully) regular dose of RSO, as of now I will just be on maintenance doses. Looking back at it now it's hard to believe I've been doing RSO for almost 8 months straight. What started out as a controllable high 8 months ago has turned into a real chore at the end. I started taking RSO about 9PM when I started, it made for a great night's sleep and I found myself waking 12 hours or so later. As time went on things would slowly change. Falling asleep at 9PM would drag out until midnight or later. Waking up around 6AM became the new norm. My appetite during all this has been spotty, some days I want to pig out, others I don't eat at all. I went from 250# down to 175# after the operation, can't say the RSO ever increased or decreased my appetite. One thing that did change during the RSO use was how I handle food intake. I feel great in the morning and I'm usually hungry when I awake, so I eat. Since the operation removed half my stomach meals are usually smaller and more frequent. About 4 months ago I started getting stomach pains about 4PM every afternoon. These got to be quite intense after awhile and the pain would be unbearable, usually going away after taking a Norco or Vicodin. This was usually shared with extreme bouts of gas. Passing gas would bring some relief but after a couple weeks I found out that if I ate something the pain would go away for a few hours. Sounds easy enough but if you've ever tried to eat when experiencing a stomach ache it's damn near impossible. Doc says I have a mild case of anorexia, hope I lose it as I'd like to put a few pounds on. I'm hoping the pains may have been from the RSO and maybe something to do with chlorophyll or something. Guess I'll find out soon enough.
Anxiety attacks and panic attacks became a reality about 2 months ago. Watching TV I'd see something funny and laugh my ass off, 5 minutes later something sad would appear and the tears would flow. These were emotions that would have never surfaced in the past, I'm a biker, not an emotional guy. Now for the worse part of this whole thing, the short term memory loss. I've pretty much turned into a friggin' zombie. The clock on the wall needs a new battery but I found that if I set the hands forward manually it'll start again for a few more days. This has been going on since Halloween. I know it'll only take 10 minutes to open it up and change it but I just can't bring myself around to doing it. Dishes in the sink have been there just as long. 2 minute jobs take an hour. 5 minute jobs take a week. Spend 10 minutes looking for my glasses and I'm wearing them. Geez, I hope it really is short term.
The last thing I'd like to touch on is support. I would not recommend doing RSO without the support of a spouse or family. I'm a semi-private kinda guy and although this may sound selfish I don't know if I'd want to go through all this again by myself. No spouse or girlfriend in my life at this time but family checks on me once a week or so. If I had to do it again I'd definitely want someone to hold my hand through this. Just the comforting factor would be a godsend. Someone to worry about all the little things so you don't have to. The last thing I needed during all this was to be worried about paying bills and disability checks, etc. The insurance company stopped my disability checks in August, and an appeal was finally approved 3 days ago. Almost 5 months without a check, thank God for the folks. Anyway, that's about where we stand at the moment. Would I do it again? Sure, but let's hope I won't have to. I go back for another scan the first week of January, hopefully the good news will continue. I'll post again then. Thanks again for all those here who have helped me get through this. God knows it wasn't easy.
Ken

Post above was one day after stopping 8 month RSO regimen. Biggest problem back then was a 4 month bout with abdominal pain and excess gas. Did some reading on symptoms and figured out the Iodine regimen I was doing with Lugol's Iodine was probably giving me excess potassium in my system. Stopped the Iodine regimen and within 3 days started feeling much better. By day 7 I was feeling fantastic, with abdominal pain and gas reduced by about 90%. No pain for the first time in a year and a half has really helped my mental state, everything is right as rain now. Got another scan last week, Jan. 15th, and saw the oncologist a few days ago. He says a few lymph nodes are enlarged but less than 1 cm in size, just like the last scan. He's not worried about it and says I shouldn't be either. All other test results were good. Changed my 3 month follow-ups to 4 months. I'll be calling work tomorrow to set up an appointment for a return to work physical. Keeping my fingers crossed for now, hope my luck continues. Should have done my first maintenance dose a week ago but have to hold off until after the physical and piss test. Wish me luck and thanks again to all (especially GrowGoddess) for the help. I'll update as things progress.
Ken

[GrowGoddess]

thanks again. but maybe too much thc in RSO?it would be hard to get a small enough drop of oil wouldnt it..i read 1/3 of a drop is pretty strong for a human.

you can dilute the RSO if need be. How much does your dog weigh? If it is less than 60 pounds, treating him/her with high quality RSO, and I am talking really high quality, it could be a little difficult because it would be such a small dose, like a 1/3 of a grain of rice, and that is just to get started. Three times per day, as the tolerance gets better, increase the dose size. You can dilute the RSO with coconut oil, butter, peanut butter, alcohol if you are going to do a 50/50 dilution (only a couple of drops of whiskey or vodka three times per day should not be harmful to the dog (just my opinion or guess). I suppose if I were to treat a small dog, I would probably choose to dilute the oil with coconut oil or real butter.

I fully agree with Weezard. You might want to sample the oil yourself to determine the potency, then do the math.