My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil

[painretreat]

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[kwilal]

Been a few months since I posted here. Nothing bugs me like folks who post a story about someone starting the Simpson Oil and then never giving an update as to progress or failure. Anyway, thanks WKRMN on your fathers update, saying a prayer for him. Let's see if I can keep this short & sweet, a Reader's Digest condensed version if you will.
August 2012 I get the news I've got pancreatic cancer.
September 2012 Got my guts removed with a Whipple Procedure which supposedly increased my 3-year survival rate from 6% to 20%.
December 2012-February 2013 Chemo & radiation. They left the chemo port in my chest, said they'd need it when they came back with more chemo this summer.
March 2013 rolls around and a guy I know ask me if I'm familiar with Simpson Oil. Check it out on the computer when I get home and figure I've got nothing to lose. This guy has a license in Michigan to grow pot legally and turns me on to a 10ml syringe full of this Simpson Oil. Looks, smells and taste like the bottom of an ashtray. Thick & sticky. Start taking it the beginning of May, eat about a ML (or gram) a day. The CT scan I had in April showed a few things still going on down there. I take the Simpson Oil every day while trying to educate myself on it.
July 2013 rolls around and we do another scan, somebody messed something up (or did they?) because the Doc (oncologist) was having a hard time trying to understand what they had written in the report. Doc gets pissed and decides we'll just do another scan in 2 months.
August 2013 I bought a rice cooker and coffee cup warmer (thanks for the recommendations, Growgoddess) and made my own using 99% ISO from Amazon, turned out fine.
Early October 2013 brings around another scan. Went to see the Doc last week for results (5 1/2 month mark for the Oil) and he's happy as hell. If you knew the Doc you'd know he ain't a happy kind of guy. He tells me it appears things are shrinking and for the first time in 15 months mentions the word remission. Says all my numbers are great. I haven't told him yet about the medical marijuana I've been doing, haven't decided if I ever will.
Is pot curing me? I don't know. It's still too early to tell and no one could have an intelligent answer based on one scan. Maybe it's the pot, maybe it's the holy water my sister buys me from Lourdes, maybe it's all the vitamins & supplements I've been taking, maybe it's the prayers. Hell, maybe it's all of them combined. All I know is that I'm getting better while fighting a disease that took my grandmother and now wants me. For the first time since this ordeal started I feel like there may be hope. A chance hit on a Googled website brought me to Cannibis.com and here, Growgoddess's post. The things I have learned may save my life, I surely hope so, and for that I thank all of you who have posted here.
So, that's where we stand today. Now that I've talked your ear off, it's time for another question. How much longer should I continue this regimen until I cut back to a maintenance dose? The main reason I'm asking is I've been off work since August 2012 and found out after 18 months it's in the contract that we lose our seniority. Don't want to lose that as I've been there 31 years. Not sure if it would lead to being dismissed (and losing my insurance) as no one has ever been out that long. Anyway, I figured I'd just keep doing the Oil until the end of December (another 2 months) then dry out for a month so I could take a return to work physical and hopefully pass a piss test. This would get me back before my end-of-February deadline. Ideally I'd like to stay on it full time until the next scan but I guess 2 months is better than nothing. Any input from Growgoddess and the rest of you would be appreciated. Thanks again for all you've done.
Ken

Well, it's been two months since I last posted and thought I'd give a minor update. While there is plenty of feedback on how to make RSO in this thread there's not much input from those who are actually taking it. Last night was my final (hopefully) regular dose of RSO, as of now I will just be on maintenance doses. Looking back at it now it's hard to believe I've been doing RSO for almost 8 months straight. What started out as a controllable high 8 months ago has turned into a real chore at the end. I started taking RSO about 9PM when I started, it made for a great night's sleep and I found myself waking 12 hours or so later. As time went on things would slowly change. Falling asleep at 9PM would drag out until midnight or later. Waking up around 6AM became the new norm. My appetite during all this has been spotty, some days I want to pig out, others I don't eat at all. I went from 250# down to 175# after the operation, can't say the RSO ever increased or decreased my appetite. One thing that did change during the RSO use was how I handle food intake. I feel great in the morning and I'm usually hungry when I awake, so I eat. Since the operation removed half my stomach meals are usually smaller and more frequent. About 4 months ago I started getting stomach pains about 4PM every afternoon. These got to be quite intense after awhile and the pain would be unbearable, usually going away after taking a Norco or Vicodin. This was usually shared with extreme bouts of gas. Passing gas would bring some relief but after a couple weeks I found out that if I ate something the pain would go away for a few hours. Sounds easy enough but if you've ever tried to eat when experiencing a stomach ache it's damn near impossible. Doc says I have a mild case of anorexia, hope I lose it as I'd like to put a few pounds on. I'm hoping the pains may have been from the RSO and maybe something to do with chlorophyll or something. Guess I'll find out soon enough.
Anxiety attacks and panic attacks became a reality about 2 months ago. Watching TV I'd see something funny and laugh my ass off, 5 minutes later something sad would appear and the tears would flow. These were emotions that would have never surfaced in the past, I'm a biker, not an emotional guy. Now for the worse part of this whole thing, the short term memory loss. I've pretty much turned into a friggin' zombie. The clock on the wall needs a new battery but I found that if I set the hands forward manually it'll start again for a few more days. This has been going on since Halloween. I know it'll only take 10 minutes to open it up and change it but I just can't bring myself around to doing it. Dishes in the sink have been there just as long. 2 minute jobs take an hour. 5 minute jobs take a week. Spend 10 minutes looking for my glasses and I'm wearing them. Geez, I hope it really is short term.
The last thing I'd like to touch on is support. I would not recommend doing RSO without the support of a spouse or family. I'm a semi-private kinda guy and although this may sound selfish I don't know if I'd want to go through all this again by myself. No spouse or girlfriend in my life at this time but family checks on me once a week or so. If I had to do it again I'd definitely want someone to hold my hand through this. Just the comforting factor would be a godsend. Someone to worry about all the little things so you don't have to. The last thing I needed during all this was to be worried about paying bills and disability checks, etc. The insurance company stopped my disability checks in August, and an appeal was finally approved 3 days ago. Almost 5 months without a check, thank God for the folks. Anyway, that's about where we stand at the moment. Would I do it again? Sure, but let's hope I won't have to. I go back for another scan the first week of January, hopefully the good news will continue. I'll post again then. Thanks again for all those here who have helped me get through this. God knows it wasn't easy.
Ken

[Weezard]

Mahalo!

I do sympathize and fully agree about the support.
My wife was extremely patient through the zombie part.
Ran out of oil about a month ago and I'm just starting to "surface" now.

Kinda waiting to see if I'll be able to get away with a maintenance dose.
Checking for weight loss, etc.

Actively hunting for a full course of RSO just in case I need to go back on full dosage.
If so, want to have what I'll need for a full course, on-hand.

First 2 times, excrement occurred.
Had to go on half dosage, because of legal and economic restrictions.
Then started back on full dosage and ran out half way.
The trouble with making your own is, apparently zombies are lousy growers.

Been testing oil from different sources for effectiveness by applying it to visible growths.
Warts, moles, neuro-endocrine tumors, etc.
I do this because my friend with the glioma multiforma, has recently died
The RSO gave him an an "extra" year and a half of no growth.
We thought we had it knocked.

When my grow crashed, he obtained RSO from another source.
When his symptoms recurred within 2 months, I had him send me a sample.
It had no effect at all on growths that the previous oil that we had made, would remove in a week!
Now, I'm testing, labeling, and storing every scrap that I can beg or borrow until I have ~80g. of known effectiveness

Bottom line is, my PSA is still climbing.
Will have another test when medicare allows.
If, I still have a PSA reading increase, I'll have to conclude that RSO just is not effective in my case.
Not a big deal, really, at the present doubling rate, I have >10 years to look for something that is.

Dang!
Started out here wanting to share ways of coping with the zombie effect.
Post-it notes, alarm timers, hungry dogs, etc.
But, except for the dogs, it all requires an organized partner to set it up.

When my head clears a bit more, I'm thinking that making a checklist now might be a big help to us later.
Attempting that while zombified was, well, humorous.
If you're not the zombie, that is.

Many thanks for returning and making my month.
There's no better guide than experience, so perhaps we can work on a checklist together.
See if we can come up with a helpful "package insert".
Wish I'd had something similar going in.

Aloha,
Weezard

[PuffPuffPassDragon]

Weezard,

My thoughts and prayers are with you as well as others dealing with ca.

PPP~DRagon

[kwilal]

Hey Weez, hope it all works out for you. We are certainly being tested. Don't know what I can contribute to your checklist at this time, give me a month or so for me to find what's left of my brain. My "zombie" period peaked about 2 weeks ago when the widow lady next door called me up and asked if I could remove her broken water softener for good. Knowing my limitations during this period wasn't enough to put the job off and I figured it would take a bit of energy but all I had to do was cut two pipes and solder caps on them. This project took 5 hours and numerous trips to the hardware store. Unreal. I don't know what it is but since I've been laid up with cancer I spend the better part of the day sitting around the house, and for some reason everyone seems to think I'm more than available to do favors and projects and God-knows-what for them. I'm sure I've pissed off a few folks and family by telling them no but that's just too bad, I cannot be at your beck & call while I'm dealing with my own life & death situation. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to me if I needed something done the last person I'd be hunting down for help would be someone dealing with a serious illness. Just common sense, I guess. Anyway, let's hope we all get better soon.
Ken

[Weezard]

I do know what you're on about.
Had a similar plumbing adventure here.
Half hour sweat solder job.
After 2 days, I asked for help.

Then my friends had computer issues and needed a data recovery.
I really wanted to help when asked, but just was not up to the task.

That's what irritated me.
Then I started associating the irritation with the asker.
Good way to lose friends.
Was feeling kinda grumpy until a stumbled across this little pearl;

"Insight:
last night for example i was examining/contemplating/pondering my negative reactions to a lot of the fucktard behavior being exhibited by so many ppl. i realized that the system is so fucked up that a lot of ppl are really, truly suffering from being forced to exist in the present system. i'm very possibly getting pissed off over other's injuries. maybe ppl aren't fucked up. maybe many are being injured by living in the present context and i'm reacting to injuries as if the injuries are the person. "

Guy calls himself Idiit.
Yeah, right!
Tacked this onto the end of a post in a thread called;

"What Diseases/Conditions Has Cannabis Cured Or Helped You With"

The irritation passes as you surface.
Starting to get a clear view of my microcosm.
Started cleaning up the messes I'd made that I wasn't even aware of.
I am truly blessed with patient and understanding friends and family.

Be a while before we can put something coherent together for nascent oilers.
Hell! I just tried to make a simple shopping/chore list.
Been a half hour.
Hadda take a break.

Came here to ramble as a form of displacement behavior.

As you can tell, I'm still pretty "scattered" after a full month off of the RSO.
Then again, this full-melt bubble hash probably isn't helping, yah?

Meh, I'll make a list tomorrow.
Today, we have hash. :dance:

Aloha,
Weeze the woozy

[GrowGoddess]

I don't know much about using moonshine and can't offer any recommendation. I have heard both good and bad experiences with it.

Soon I should be able to offer an opinion on grain alcohol vs 99% iso. I will be getting some 190 proof Everclear. I will be doing a comparison soon. I will be making QWISO hash though, but it is better than nothing.

Here is an iso extraction of QWISO hash. It is great for smoking or vaporizing. It is not for ingesting like RSO is. I like it a lot for vaporizing in my e-cigarettes. RSO does offer more flavor. Really, it all comes down to personal preference.

QWISO test run. Triple rinse without the heat that RSO requires, the oil comes out cleaner looking. Only good for smoking or vaporizing.
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Okay, so I made the QWISO with the 190 Everclear. For making QWISO I like the grain alcohol better. It is less fumy and more safe in my opinion.

For RSO, well, I have been taking the oil for about three years. Now that I enjoy vaporizing it too, (large quantities), I want to make the oil a little safer. It is not that expensive and you don't really lose any oil out of it, just one additional step to take in the process. I can't really afford to do a full extraction with grain alcohol, and am not so sure about those recovery systems. I just fear that they can do the oil more damage than good, not to mention that those recovery systems can be very expensive. So I have a poor man's solution, so to speak.

After making my RSO with 99% isopropyl alcohol, it is completely finished, stored in the syringes. I will just put the oil back into the purge pan and dilute it with 190 proof or stronger grain alcohol and purge the oil again. Of course I will be extra patient and delicate. Certainly do not want to cause damage to the oil. After the purge is finished, I like it to come out thicker and more concentrated without heat. I just put a coffee filter over the purge pan, hold the filter on with a rubber band and put the purge pan in a dry well ventilated area. After a couple of days I will lightly warm the oil so I can suck it back up into syringes for storage. It may take more than a couple days depending upon how dry and ventilated the area is. This is after I purge out the 190 everclear on the coffee cup warmer. So you can get the oil as concentrated as possible. It is also important for caregivers like me so we do not possess more than our limits will allow.

Knowing I am going to be using oil for the rest of my life, it makes me feel a little better knowing it was purged with grain alcohol. This is not a must or anything, just something you may want to consider.

I couldn't afford to do these experiments with RSO because it would require a lot of grain alcohol which is expensive, not to mention when I make RSO I prefer to use at the least 5 ounces of bud. I did notice when I use the grain alcohol for the QWISO that the alcohol evaporated faster than the 5% water. So the oil was kind of dry in the glass baking pan, but there was a lot of white foamy water that still needed to evaporate. So obviously if you use grain alcohol to make RSO you will not need to add water to the rice cooker at the end of the rice cooker purging stage.

In the batch of QWISO I made with the grain alcohol instead of waiting for the water to evaporate, I dilluted it with more Everclear and put it into my RSO final purge pan, applied a little heat and had a fan blowing across it. I do like QWISO or RSO repurged with Everclear. Gives me an extra peace of mind. My purpose for bringing QWISO into this thread was for comparing grain alcohol to 99% isoporpyl alcohol. If I had the resources, I would have used the grain alcohol to make RSO for the experiments/comparisons. The only other reason I decided to make QWISO was to see if the e-cigg vaporizers were capable of decarbing the THC and able to provide a good buzz or offer relief. Also, and overall comparison between RSO and QWISO for the electronic vaporizer. The end result of comparing the two is personal preference. The are each different. It is just a matter of which way you prefer it. For vaporizing, QWISO is convenient because you can make small quantities. The convenience meaning you do not have access to large quantities of buds.

Overall RSO does it all! You can eat it, you can vape it, and you can use is as a topical. RSO is the way to go!

Winterizing, I don't really recommend for treating cancer, but for using the RSO for vaporizing, you may want to winterize your oil. Winterizing is just a matter of making the oil cleaner. 190 proof or higher grain alcohol is what you want to use to winterize RSO as long as it was made from iso or grain alcohol. To winterize say RSO made from isopropyl, just dilute the RSO with 190 or higher proof grain alcohol, put it in a glass jar or something, store it in the freezer for at least three days. Pull the jar out of the freezer, run the solution through a paper coffee filter, then purge that solution. There you have your winterized oil. Just a basic simple way to do it. It is more effective with a more dirty, higher chlorophyll oil. Winterizing very clean high grade oil is really more wasteful than helpful. My only interest in winterizing is for vaporizing purposes, to improve taste and it helps the vaporizer heating coil function properly and last longer.

Here are some pictures of my QWISO run with Everclear. In the picture to the left, you can see the white foam bubbles of the water from the Everclear. If it were 99% iso, you would not get that. Not a real big deal, just takes longer to evaporate.
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Completely organic. Again, I apologize I was not able to do this with RSO. With the vaporizer mix, I added about 50% Propylene Glycol USP to the oil. I tried it out in my favorite vaporizer, innoken SVD, non decarbed oil, and it is awesome. My first time using only one strain too. Blueberry Jam is my "dirtiest" darkest strain. I don't normally use it for making oil, especially when the oil is meant for vaporizing. It came out really clean. I am pretty sure it is because there was no heat like when making RSO.
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This was not easy to get, I had to order it from another state. My state only allows the 151 proof.
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Same RSO batch each winterized. One winterized using isopropyl alcohol. The other with 190 proof Everclear. As you can see, the everclear winterization the oil came out cleaner (bottom syringe). It would be more colorful and transparent if I had a light behind the syringes.
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[kwilal]

[quote=Weezard][COLOR=#000080][SIZE=4][FONT=book antiqua]
That's what irritated me.
Then I started associating the irritation with the asker.
Good way to lose friends.

Know the feeling Weez, raised my voice for the first time to my parents a while back, don't even know why, but felt really bad about it and told them what was going on after apologizing to them. They have been nothing but supportive during this ordeal and I do love them so. The post I wrote above took almost 2 hours and I left out probably the most important thing I wanted to cover, the irritation that leads to violence. In the past month I've become so irritated over stupid shit that I end up turning violent. Not against people mind you, just things around the house. Now granted, I'm a biker so I have a natural tendency not to take shit from people but this was starting to scare me. 2 weeks ago I toss a baked potato in the microwave for lunch, punch in 4 minutes and go back to the computer. Thought I heard it ring and figured I'd get it in a minute or so. I must have hit a button accidentally (44 minutes) as the microwave was still cooking as I played online. A few minutes later I'm sitting here and I see smoke coming out of the kitchen. Enter the kitchen and I see what's left of the potato on fire in the microwave. Got really pissed and threw the flaming piece of charcoal out the front door into the snow. Now most folks would have left it at that but for some reason (yeah, I'm pissed!) I go inside the house, come out with a .45 and I'm ready to empty the magazine into what's left of the potato. After a few seconds I'm like WTF am I doing? Hopefully the neighbors didn't see me. A few days later something minor set me off (kitchen chair tipping back because of all the coats and shirts on it) and I started kicking the living shit out of the chair for about 2 minutes. A few days after that I get set off again and start beating the table so hard I thought I broke my wrist. At this time I've got about a week left on the RSO and had been on it for almost 8 months so I figured just get through this last week and it'll all be fine. Panic attacks and anxiety attacks about doubled during this last week and I'd be lying to you if I didn't tell you suicide crossed my mind on more than one occasion. By time I was finally done with the RSO I was drained physically and emotionally. I don't understand how I can do RSO for 7 months with no problems what-so-ever and the last month turns out to be a nightmare. I do understand that I've always made my living using my hands and now that something as easy as tying my shoes can bring about a shitload of irritation, but I don't understand the violence. All I can say is I hope it goes away soon. I find myself staying at home more often as I don't want to interact with the public and take a chance of going off on someone. I know 3 other people with cancer at this time and have had second thoughts about seeing if they wanted to start RSO. Anyway, I've babbled enough here, just wanted folks to know that taking RSO may affect each of us differently and you never know how it's going to affect you until the time comes.
Ken

[AMB IN CHAINS]

I am living with my wife in NYC where the idea of Cannabis or RSO is so far in the future that i am scared of what to do for my wife (diagnosed with a stage 4 Lymphoma) and now in bed, in pain, and not wanting to ever go back to of teh top hospitals here in NYC now that she heard of RSO. but where and how to get to Michigan when we cannot afford to leave the city...She needs help fast...some advise pleasse Grow Goddess?

[GrowGoddess]

I am living with my wife in NYC where the idea of Cannabis or RSO is so far in the future that i am scared of what to do for my wife (diagnosed with a stage 4 Lymphoma) and now in bed, in pain, and not wanting to ever go back to of teh top hospitals here in NYC now that she heard of RSO. but where and how to get to Michigan when we cannot afford to leave the city...She needs help fast...some advise pleasse Grow Goddess?

This is an instance to where I wish the Feds would just decriminalize marijuana. The reason why it is illegal, because it works. Not just for medicinal purposes either.

Michigan is probably not the best place right now due to a recent court of appeals decision which made the concentrates illegal. I have downsized to where I am not able to supply a patient for a cancer treatment. We are waiting for a supreme court decision to overturn that ruling. Politics suck!

The best way to deal with this is make the oil yourself. Like the last video I posted showing my cancer patient. Now why did another organization have to use my cancer patient as their poster boy? Most organizations or groups are not able to supply a patient with quality oil. They work with donations from others, most donations are of low quality, and most are running a scheme. Not all are, but the majority is.

Make the oil yourself, you can do better than a hustler or con artist. All you need is access to good quality buds. If using isopropyl alcohol as the solvent makes you uncomfortable, 190 proof everclear will pretty much solve that problem. The Everclear is not nearly as flammable and the aroma is not nearly as strong and you don't need to be concerned with a perfect purge because grain alcohol is safe to consume. If you cannot find quality marijuana where you are, my best advice is, figure out a way to get to Colorado after January 1, 2014. From what I understand, if you are over 21, you can purchase marijuana there. Pick out indica strains, four of the nicest looking strains and make the oil. I always recommend to mix strains for the best results. They might even have RSO there as well, but I still strongly recommend that you make the oil yourself. Don't trust others, trust yourself.

That is the best advice I can offer.

Good luck and God bless.