My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil

[WKRMN]

Hello everyone!

This is my very first post...I am so happy I found this forum! My dad was recently diagnosed with stage 3 lung cancer (about 3 weeks ago). The doctors have also told him it has moved into some of his lymph nodes. He is going to an oncologist today to learn about chemo and some other treatments. However, I have mentioned some "alternative" treatment options and he seems to be ok with the idea. So...I went ahead and procured some high grade indica (afghan kush, and some northern lights) the other day. I was only able to get about 3/4 of an oz. though....I know, not very much...and my RSO will probably be very difficult to extract.

GrowGoddess- I've read through all of your posts! Thank you so much for the plethora of info. RSO is a very confusing process once you start reading through multiple sites/recipes. I only need a few more items to begin my first small batch of RSO, the solvent being one of them. Since my dads cancer is stage 3, I want to produce the highest quality possible...and it seems like the consensus is to use naphtha to do so. I was planning on 99% ISO...having a hard time finding it. Then I read about everclear, which I can get at any liquor store here...but it seems like people say you get much less THC extracted with this method. Ugh...just writing this post makes me nervous. This stuff is expensive! And I don't want to mess it up. I'll try to post some pics once I get started and let you know my results...but any other tips would be appreciated!

OH! And I have just started to read about this Green Dragon soda/tea stuff....would this be another option?

[GrowGoddess]

They don't like us to use links here, sorry, but I would order the 99% isopropyl alcohol online or go with the everclear. I have heard too many horror stories with using naphtha. Naphtha can be very dangerous and confusing in finding the safe to use naphtha. Either way, I keep hearing so many bad things about it, I would recommend staying away from it.

I have not tried 190 everclear myself, but my best guess is that it is just not as efficient. It can still produce premium oil though. I am pretty confident of that.

Maybe do your first batch with the 190 since you can conveniently get it. It would be good practice too. It should tide you over until you can order and receive the 99% isopropyl alcohol.

Good luck and God bless.

[Weezard]

"I want to produce the highest quality possible...and it seems like the consensus is to use naphtha to do so. I was planning on 99% ISO...having a hard time finding it. Then I read about everclear, which I can get at any liquor store here...but it seems like people say you get much less THC extracted with this method. Ugh...just writing this post makes me nervous. This stuff is expensive! And I don't want to mess it up. I'll try to post some pics once I get started and let you know my results...but any other tips would be appreciated!

OH! And I have just started to read about this Green Dragon soda/tea stuff....would this be another option?"

If you want the highest quality of an oil that actually does shrink tumors.
Use the recipe from the horses mouth.
"Run from the cure"

99% iso is hard to find.
91% is available at most drugstores
And 70% is useable but also picks up water soluble components that are undesired.
You can remove some, but not all of the water, with table salt.

Same goes for Ethanol.
The highest proof that is commercially available is 181. That's 90.5 % Ethanol.
The highest proof sold in the islands is 151. that's 75.5 %
Same story with water soluble components.

If you can't find clean naphtha, I'd go with the 91% isopropyl.

The trick with alcohol extraction is freezing temperatures.
Put the buds, the solvent, funnel, filter-papers and the containers in the freezer overnight.
Do 2 quick, (3 minutes), washes, keeping everything a cold as you can.
That freezes out the water, chlorophyll, etc. and yields a honey colored, very pure oil.
Then use a fan to do the evaporation at room temperature.

Patience is advised.
When it looks done, do it some more.

It will look like coffee with cream.
Then small black dots form and turn into large, black, globs.
At the end there is some water left over.
It will look reddish.
We call that "red oil."
It has very little psychoactive effect and tastes nasty so we usually discard it.

Then, set it on a coffee warmer and watch it closely.
When large, (air & solvent), bubbles stop and the tiny, (CO₂), bubbles start to taper off, it's done.
Start with a match head size dose 2 or 3 times per day and increase the size of the dose as he builds a tolerance.

I advise against using Butane.
It's very dangerous and the end product appears to be less effective as a cancer treatment.

Aloha,
Weezard

[WKRMN]

Big thanks for the speedy response Weezard! I was just logging on to ask if I should be freezing overnight! So, I picked up some 190 proof grain alcohol today for my first test run. I may switch to ISO if this batch doesn't come out powerful enough. Will 3 minute washes be enough time if I am using everclear (190 proof)? Some people have mentioned the everclear takes longer to remove the trichomes?

Also, with the everclear, do I need to cook it down in a rice cooker? You mentioned just using a fan and letting it evaporate at room temp. That seems like it would take a couple of days? Maybe I am wrong?

[Weezard]

Actually, in a shallow pan it only takes all day.
And does pick up water from the air.

A rice cooker will speed it up, but you still need to use a fan.
Ethanol vapor burns with an almost invisible flame.
And with the right vapor to air ratio, is explosive.
I only do it out doors, with a fan, and use an induction heater for the boil.

My rig re-condenses the ethanol for re-use.
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So the vapor is mostly contained
I still use the fan though, because Murphy lurks.
Might not see vapor leaking until half past ignition.

And, that stuff is too expensive to just boil or burn off, yah?

"Some people have mentioned the everclear takes longer to remove the trichomes?"

I did not find that to be the case.
I inspect the buds with my Eyeclops 100X 'scope before and after the soak
3 minutes will work fine if you shake the jar well, and for maximum yield you could do 5 minutes without picking up to much chlorophyll.
Best to stick with 3 minutes and do two rinses though.
Because as soon as the temperature goes north of freezing your amber oil will turn fluorescent green and taste quite nasty.

If you leave the spent buds in the filter paper at the end for can watch the green color appear as they warm up.


Weigh the buds before you start, then weigh the oil.
I have ended with 21% yield, but it was superior bud to start with.

Aloha,
Weeze

[WKRMN]

You the man Weezard! :thumbsup:

[WKRMN]

So here will be my process:

1. froze buds and 190 proof grain alcohol overnight.
2. separate buds by hand and place into jar
3. pour alcohol over buds until submerged
4. Shake shake shake! for 3 min.
5. Pour through filter into rice cooker (I'd like to speed it up slightly instead of waiting and watching all day at room temp)
6. Add plant buds back into jar for second wash (pour alcohol over buds again)
7. Shake it up baby. 3min.
8. pour through filter into rice cooker
8.5. maybe a third wash?!
9. Bring cooker outside and place on high. Fan will be used to carry vapors away.
10. Watch carefully until it boils down fairly low
11. transfer to a pyrex glass measuring cup and place on coffee warmer
12. Stare at bubbles! Until they are all gone. Wonder how long this will take?
13. slurp it up with a syringe...I now have liquid gold.

How does this sound?

[cheri_shop]

I would like to start out curing my cancer. What is the recommended dosage? If I take one grain of rice, I am high for as many as 7 hours. But then what? How do I get on incurring regime?

Thank you
Cheri

[Weezard]

A+

Spot on!
Don't forget gloves.
Them jars get cold.
And the filtering takes time.

I did the whole thing inside the chest freezer because our ambient is >80 F..

6. Leave them in the jar.
Just decant the liquid into the filter and pour in more chilled solvent right away.
Then you can get to shaking while the filter drains.


8.5. Go for it. Probably less than 5% on the third rinse but it beats trying to squeeze out the last of the solvent from the spent bud.

I give the spent buds to a friend who is trying to quit smoking tobacco but is subject to random piss tests.
He calls it O'Doules.


12. It takes a while to get hot enough to bubble.
And much depends on how much solvent is still present when you start.

I can tell you that the tiny bubble phase takes less than half an hour.
And the stare at it constantly part was for folks with poor reading comprehension.

You actually understood the process right off.
So, trust your judgement.
You can see, hear, and smell the progress.
After the first de-carb vigil, you will know when, and for how long, you can risk leaving it unattended, yah?

When this is done, I'd like to mine you for information about the effects of the Whipple.
My wife has a litter of neuro-endocrine tumors in her pancreas.
Small, and benign, so far.
We are watching them closely.
I assume it's like instant onset diabetes?

Meh, we've already muddied this thread a bit.
Perhaps we should start a new thread in the medical forum to document your progress.

Aloha,
Weeze

[Weezard]

The answer is in the question.

It would seem to indicate a grain of rice every 7-8 hours.
3 times a day

Unless you need to get things done.
Then twice a day dosage will do.

Increase the dosage gradually as your tolerance builds.
And know that not all oil is created equal.
Less potent oil?
Higher dosage.

What's important is to start low and increase gradually.
If you take too much at once, it can be a rocky ride.

May we ask what kind of cancer you are treating?

Aloha,

Weezard