My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil

[gracelesskelly]

I only recently became aware of RSO and would really like to try it for my recurrent cancer but I'm in an illegal state. Now I'm not against breaking a law or two to save my life but I'm concerned with quality. I live in Missouri and our drug dealers aren't known for their quality control or expertise. In my experience, the availabilty is either bad, good or great. I wouldn't know an indica if it bit me in the face. Growing isn't an option for me. Any suggestions on how to find the proper ingredients when I'm 'shopping'? Or is it posible to travel somewhere legal to purchase what I need? I have a plethora of proof that I'm a cancer patient. Thanks in advance, any advice is most appreciated.

[gracelesskelly]

Really, ANY advice.

I'd make a great patient for a caregiver. I'm really nice, I don't have cooties or bad breath and I have cancer, so I'm a sure thing.

[Weezard]

Why is growing not an option?

Reason I ask, is it's about the only thing I give half way decent advice about.

Judging bud quality is a learned skill.

Reading about it is not experience, but it's a good start.
I suggest that you click on the link in my signature and start reading.
You'll find a veritable plethora of information. (Sorry, hadda)

Seriously, you'll get plenty of help here.
But what quality of help you get, will reflect the quality of your queries, yah?

Welcome to cdot from a fellow traveler.

Aloha,
Weezard

[gracelesskelly]

OOooo I like you, Weezard, you is funny! Growing isn't an option right now because I live with a friend who isn't exactly the liberated type. Hoping to change that in the future but in the meantime, I'm sorta stuck between a rock and a tard place. I want to start the oil regimen but I'm so uninformed I don't know where to begin. I'm sloooowly coming up to speed. I've been reading my butt off for the past week, from the minute I heard about Rick Simpson oil. My goal is to find a reliable source in my area and produce my own or find a willing and experienced caregiver and travel to get what I need. The whole process is sorta daunting but I'm determined to figure it out because this cancer nonsense is really getting old. I've been at the mercy of my docs for over 2yrs and I'm tired of feeling pooey and looking like the guy from that Powder movie. I'm supposed to start my 7th kind of chemo next week and the thought of doing so makes me want to cry and/or vomit. I don't know how to up the quality of my queries, at this point I'm not even sure what to query. I just know that I need help getting started. I promise any help I receive won't be wasted on me, if someone can help me save my life I vow to use whatever time I have left to help others.

[Weezard]

OOooo I like you, Weezard, you is funny! Growing isn't an option right now because I live with a friend who isn't exactly the liberated type. Hoping to change that in the future but in the meantime, I'm sorta stuck between a rock and a tard place.

See, you've defined a major problem right away.
You could leap 2 hurdles at once by moving to any state in the 21st century.

I'm an old steelhead.
Been chasin' ever higher highs, since '65.
Even worked for a corporation that was rabid about their zero tolerance policy.
Smoked heavily everyday and none were the wiser.

Simpson oil is a whole 'nother level though.
If you do it right, it will be impossible to hide from your friend.
You will need to push your tolerance.
Push it too hard and you will be a boneless chicken for 8 -16 hours.
Should your friend be unaware of the reason that you are suddenly a people-skinned rug, you could see the inside of an ER.
And, depending on how under-informed you friend is about the true nature of Cannabis, you could be incarcerated, (for your own good, of course ).

So, I would strongly advise that you change your situation first.
You will not be able to hide this from friends and family.
Best to get your friend on-board, or move out.

I want to start the oil regimen but I'm so uninformed I don't know where to begin. I'm sloooowly coming up to speed. I've been reading my butt off for the past week, from the minute I heard about Rick Simpson oil. My goal is to find a reliable source in my area and produce my own or find a willing and experienced caregiver and travel to get what I need. The whole process is sorta daunting but I'm determined to figure it out because this cancer nonsense is really getting old. I've been at the mercy of my docs for over 2yrs and I'm tired of feeling pooey and looking like the guy from that Powder movie. I'm supposed to start my 7th kind of chemo next week and the thought of doing so makes me want to cry and/or vomit. I don't know how to up the quality of my queries, at this point I'm not even sure what to query. I just know that I need help getting started. I promise any help I receive won't be wasted on me, if someone can help me save my life I vow to use whatever time I have left to help others.

Goodonya!
Start with providing some details about the malaise
For some kinds of cancer, RSO is, um, less effective.

And for some kinds, it's a total waste of resources.
It is NOT a cure-all!
For some cancers it is merely a safe and excellent palliative treatment, nothing more.

That said, once you chart a navigable course, we'll be happy to help in any way we can.
I'm sure that I speak for many of the old-timers here.

Also, best to start a new thread rather than hijack this one.
Make the title reflect the content and the right people will find it, yah?

'twould also be a good idea to goto your personal page and start a photo album.
Only has to have one picture in it.
No gotta be weedish, anything will do.
You'll see why later.

Aloha,
Weeze

[gracelesskelly]

My friend is aware and supportive, just not willing to take a growing risk. I'm heeding all of your advice immediately and will vacate this thread. Thanks so much for your help!

[GrowGoddess]

My most recent experience with Rick Simpson Oil.

I may have successfully created electronic cannabis oil. Using RSO, I have added other ingredients to it in an attempt to mimic the electronic cigarette oils. I did this because the e-cigarettes work so well. I love the pen vaporizers. When it comes to convenience, they cannot be beat. I have looked into other pen vaporizers meant for waxes and other oils. I have read many forums discussing the different pen vaporizers available. It seems that there is no all mighty pen vaporizer out there, each brand seems to have various problems.

One challenge with this experiment is that the e-cigarette oils are water based and the RSO (cannabis oil) is oil based. That limits a lot of options.

Since there is no A-1 pen vaporizer, I decided to make some A-1 cannabis oil that an electronic cigarette would be accommodating to. It is still in the testing phase. It takes some time to consume one oil fill in the vaporizer. Looks like it will take a couple weeks if not longer to determine if I have had true success in this e-cannabis oil.

It tastes very good. When it comes to vaporizing oil, it is the best experience I have had. It definitely gives me the strongest buzz effects compared to any other vaporizing method I have used. I have also noticed that the buzz effect seems to be different than with smoking or vaporizing straight RSO.

My new G-Oil (LOL) , vaporizes at a lower temperature than what the RSO does. It thins the oil out so it can be used in a wick type pen vaporizer. It also helps penetrate tissue (lungs) so that the RSO can go into the blood stream faster and more efficiently.

I will check back soon and give more of a final report. It is still in the trial stage.

I only paid $35 for the vaporizer after tax and shipping.

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[GrowGoddess]

Well, the pen vaporizer seems to be quite worthy. They are inexpensive enough to purchase extras or replacement pieces. I am using a Dream Vapor Electronic Cigarette. Looks like ego T makes a similar product. It seems that the parts may be interchangeable. There are all kinds of accessories, like variable voltage batteries.

Well, the big trick to make it work was actually pretty simple. I would very gently warm the RSO just until it melted. Then I take it off the heat and add propylene glycol to it. The mixture varies between 20-50% PG to RSO. The PG is used in some e-cigg oils, pharmaceutical products, and food processing. It causes the oil to penetrate the skin, or lung tissue which aids the oil to enter the bloodstream more effectively. Also, it causes the oil to vaporize at a lower temperature.

Man, I sure do love my pen vape with this oil mixture!

[giggletwig]

GrowGoddess, this information on the e-cig is very interesting to me as I already have an e-cig and find them easy to use, healthier and portable (just using nicotine at the moment though, not as much punch as I'd like to have...). How much of your mixture do you need to vape to get the desired effect? I had thought of making green dragon using propylene glycol instead of RSO. Any thoughts on how effective it would be? I know it would be weaker, but would it be strong enough to have an effect when vaped?

Thanks so much for all the great info you provide and for all of your hard work. It is very much appreciated.

[GrowGoddess]

Never tried green dragon, really don't know much about tinctures like that.

First, one or two big draws from the vaporizer or four small draws I start feeling the effects. However, it is kind of a different buzz than using the RSO straight in an eclipse vaporizer. I prefer the effects from the vape pen.

I look at it this way, the RSO is too thick to work properly in the e-pen vape so it needed to be thinned out. With hash or BHO, I would dilute it similarly until it is a little thicker than the e-cigg oil. If green dragon is already a liquid, maybe it will work just the way it is?

Another thing to consider that I don't know about, is the fact that the propylene glycol causes the oil to vaporize at a lower temperature, does that make it necessary for the oil product to go through decarboxylation? I am guessing it would probably work with other hash type products. All I have tried so far is RSO.

It tastes like quality hash with a hint of e-cigarette. It is unique. I am liking it so much, I haven't cared to even smoke a joint since I have been using the vape pen.

Hope this helps.

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