A question for the experts, "Do I Need To Be Worried"

[Burnt Toast]

BT, the same sample I give my test in is sent straight to the lab. That might be why this could have easily been a different thread. Without trying to step on your red ink toes, hoping you don't get offended since you are the Moderator. I would have gotten alot more info from the members of this site had this been its own thread like before.

The information I could have gotten from members on here would have been alot more if this completely different topic had been left alone on its own thread.

Apparently, youre failing to understand that you had started this "completely different topic" in post #14 of this thread. The DT forum doesnt not need another thread started with the same basic question that youve asked in post #14.

This is not up for further discussion or debate. Just adhere to my admonishment posted in your closed thread and everything will be hunky dory. If you choose not to, then you'll leave me with no other choice but to take further steps on the matter. Case closed.

[Skrewball]

I took my little Walmart First Check test and I think the results were negative. The line showed up for control and I got a real faint line next to the word drug. BT or anyone else no anything about this kind of UA cup. You want 2 lines to appear, one next to control and one next to drug. If a line appears just by control and not by drug, then it is positive and you fail. They did say the line by drug could be faint and you are negative and pass. My line by drug was really faint but you could tell one was there barely. Would that mean I am borderline on the level that employment guidelines allow in your system when the line does not show up as good as the control line? Mailed it in for the gas test but I am with yall, I thought it would at least need to be refrigerated....

[Burnt Toast]

Would that mean I am borderline on the level that employment guidelines allow in your system when the line does not show up as good as the control line?

No it wouldnt. To conclude that youre borderline on the basis of line intensity would be speculating (and wrongly so) since assays lack the ability to yield a quantitative value (unlike the GC/MS).
There is no meaning attributed to the intensity of a line. Even synthetic urine controls (which contain no drug metabolites at all) can produce a faint line on an assay. Its still a negative.

[Skrewball]

Just read that the cut-off level for this test is 50 ng/ml. Is that the norm for what doctors go by for employment? I think it will be tested right there and not mailed in because I have a physical also and most companies don't want to have to pay for the physical if you can't pass the drug test. I don't know though.

[Burnt Toast]

Just read that the cut-off level for this test is 50 ng/ml. Is that the norm for what doctors go by for employment?

For non-DOT situations, its the party paying for the test who determines what the cutoff level should be, not the labs. The lab just provides the "test menu" for the client to pick and choose from. To answer your question, a 50 ng Immunoassay is pretty much standard fare. It is mandatory on all DOT tests.

[Skrewball]

Appreciate the info BT. You do know alot and what you are talking about. I apologize about yesterday. I can tend to be hard-headed and set in my ways (just takes me a little bit to realize, hence hard-headed). I just wonder if Neurontin and Tramadol have anything to do with it. I know thats in my system because I woke up in the middle of the night hurting and had to take 1 Neurontin and 2 Tramadol. Was trying to avoid. Haven't had to take a Vicodin in 5 or 6 days. First Check has a website that lists all the medications they say can tamper with the results but haven't gone to it yet. Need to do that now I guess. Gonna get 2 more tests and do one regular like today and do a practice run with yalls dillution method and see how it goes. Appreciate it brother :thumbsup:

[Burnt Toast]

I just wonder if Neurontin and Tramadol have anything to do with it. I know thats in my system because I woke up in the middle of the night hurting and had to take 1 Neurontin and 2 Tramadol. Was trying to avoid. Haven't had to take a Vicodin in 5 or 6 days.

Sorry SB. But only cannabis can be discussed in the forums. The mentioning of other types of drugs (legal or illegal) is prohibited. Please reread the Board Rules (linked to my signature).

Other subjects we do NOT discuss here include:

- Other drugs, including alcohol. This is a very important one. We discuss cannabis products only. Repeated references to other drugs, including misuse of pharmaceuticals, or use of psychoactives that may still be legal in your area, WILL result in a ban.

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As far as you wondering about "false positives", theres really no "false positives" anymore. "False positives" are eliminated when the sample undergoes the confirmation GC/MS test. The GC/MS would distinguish between illicit and non-illicit substances.