thank you for the help, dont think im gonna be reading up on it at the moment though done to much reading for the minute haha, im leaving the ph for the minute because theres nothing i can do for it, an the plant seems to be fine and growing fast, 2 to 4 new leaves a day, and in truth ive been reading about how to grow for a year on and off, anyways im uploading these pictures any thoughts on them on how you think there going is welcome [attachment=o278915], [attachment=o278916] thats only 1 of the plants out of the 2 i have, its a day younger than my first one, its not growing as good as the first and its stretched, but the stems hardening nicely