Producer Applicants' Lawsuit - Has it hurt or helped the patients?

[CFO]

Greetings all
In another thread, I was attacked for stating that IMO the lawsuit has harmed the program and thus the patients. One way to prove or disprove this OPINION is to take an unscientific poll....

In 2011...when did you send in your initial or renewal application and when did you receive your card?

(please, no debate, just time lines. And if you are still waiting, would like to know that as well)

Family member mailed renewal July 22; still waiting @ 09/10/11.

Thanks for your participation.

CFO Reviewed by CFO on 09-10-2011. Producer Applicants' Lawsuit - Has it hurt or helped the patients? Greetings all In another thread, I was attacked for stating that IMO the lawsuit has harmed the program and thus the patients. One way to prove or disprove this OPINION is to take an unscientific poll.... In 2011...when did you send in your initial or renewal application and when did you receive your card? (please, no debate, just time lines. And if you are still waiting, would like to know that as well) Family member mailed renewal July 22; still waiting @ 09/10/11. Thanks for Rating: 5

[MimbresValley]

Application sent back early June..application fee which was a personal check cashed first week in July...never received request for additional info or an approval denial. Friend sent his application for renewal couple weeks after me and received his renewal 10 days ago. So I would say it is poor organizational skills and lack of staffing that is hurting me personally. It says on the doh. Website all applications are processed in the order they are received, but that's definitely not true. Also on the FAQ it says the program has 30 days to review an application..which is obviously not true either. I don't know that the lawsuit hurt anything..but at this rate they are probably going to be sued again, cause randomly processing applications in no specific order. Or taking patients money but having no record of their application is just terrible service and highly unprofessional. Imagine paying a bill or making a deposit at your bank then hearing they have no record of you(and apparently its not an isolated incident).

[ScaredasHell]

I think everyone knows the DOH medical cannabis program is understaffed, and THIS is the primary reason for the backlog. So by trying to limit debate, and somehow try to "scientifically" prove that the lawsuit has CAUSED the backlog - sorry, don't like the way the issue is framed [to prove that since there is a backlog, it MUST be attributable to the lawsuit, and therefore, the lawsuit is bad].
I know this - the primary beneficiary from the lawsuit will be the attorney, Livingston; the attorney's fees generated from the lawsuit will allow him to continue working from home, his mansion in Placitas.
I think the lawsuit is almost as frivolous as Arizona basically suing itself, in Federal Ct...
I also think that, for under 4k patients, if all 25 producers knew what they were doing, there would not be a shortage of medication, and it would be debatable whether we even need any more mega-producers.

Scared

[MimbresValley]

Good point scared

[CFO]

I think everyone knows the DOH medical cannabis program is understaffed, and THIS is the primary reason for the backlog. So by trying to limit debate, and somehow try to "scientifically" prove that the lawsuit has CAUSED the backlog - sorry, don't like the way the issue is framed [to prove that since there is a backlog, it MUST be attributable to the lawsuit, and therefore, the lawsuit is bad].
I know this - the primary beneficiary from the lawsuit will be the attorney, Livingston; the attorney's fees generated from the lawsuit will allow him to continue working from home, his mansion in Placitas.
I think the lawsuit is almost as frivolous as Arizona basically suing itself, in Federal Ct...
I also think that, for under 4k patients, if all 25 producers knew what they were doing, there would not be a shortage of medication, and it would be debatable whether we even need any more mega-producers.

Scared

Thanks, Scared
You don't state your time frame here as requested. But you did so on another post that it took you only about 3 weeks to obtain your card and that you received it in April. So your reply for this unscientific poll would be: application sent in April, took 3 weeks for card to arrive. (If I remember the dates and times from the other post correctly.)

BTW - I agree with your final sentence. Until the patient numbers increase and the producers cannot keep up with the demand, I do not believe there is a need, nor will there be any new LNPPs. Once the patient numbers increase and the supply decreases, then we could justify new producers. But, right now, some of the producers have a surplus. (Of course, there are others that do not.) Eventually, the producers will be able to produce enough medicine to exceed patient needs. That is when I expect to see prices decline. Supply & demand.

[Disco Donaldson]

In 2011...when did you send in your initial or renewal application and when did you receive your card?

Greetings CFO,

Original app received & $30 PPL M/O redeemed by DOH 06/28/2011
Official Inquiry w/ copy of NMDL and SASE sent to DOH aprox 08/09/2011 (was told two week turn-around for info)
Second app w/ 2nd $30 USPS M/O received by DOH 08/31/2011 (unable to trace due to time-frame)

One email sent to DOH late July 2011
One phone message left w/ DOH voice mail early Aug 2011

Family member app and $30 USPS M/O for PPL received mid-July 2011 (USPS M/O trace in process)

I have heard nothing from the DOH regarding any of the contact attempts listed above nor have I heard any information regarding approval, denial or otherwise to said received applications. The only time I am able to get any info is when I am lucky enough to catch someone on the phone at the DOH, and even then said info is vague and unhelpful (i.e. "We have no information"). The same can be said for family member.

I have tried to be brief here as requested (timeline dates). I have a similar thread in greater detail at the following link if interested.

I hope this information is helpful to everyone.

http://boards.cannabis.com/new-mexic...-approval.html

DD

[MimbresValley]

still no phone call back, been 9 days now since I left a message on their answering machine.
still no response back about regarding my written letter regarding my application status, been exactly month,(self addressed stamped envelope was included)
getting close to three months since my check for my application fee was cashed.

the wait is getting more and more ridiculous everyday, especially when I know someone who sent their renewal application after me and already received there card. Seems the DOH doesn't understand processing applications in the order they are received. or they have no regard for peoples health. at this rate I think another lawsuit is going to filed pretty soon.

[CFO]

Family member received his card 09/22. Exactly two months from date mailed to DOH.

[CFO]

I think everyone knows the DOH medical cannabis program is understaffed, and THIS is the primary reason for the backlog. So by trying to limit debate, and somehow try to "scientifically" prove that the lawsuit has CAUSED the backlog - sorry, don't like the way the issue is framed [to prove that since there is a backlog, it MUST be attributable to the lawsuit, and therefore, the lawsuit is bad].
I know this - the primary beneficiary from the lawsuit will be the attorney, Livingston; the attorney's fees generated from the lawsuit will allow him to continue working from home, his mansion in Placitas.
I think the lawsuit is almost as frivolous as Arizona basically suing itself, in Federal Ct...
I also think that, for under 4k patients, if all 25 producers knew what they were doing, there would not be a shortage of medication, and it would be debatable whether we even need any more mega-producers.

Scared

The purpose of this thread was to find out timelines and make an analysis of same. It was not intended for a debate. The debate is being carried on in another thread. But seeing that only a few people have participated the stats aren't hard to determine.

[ManOBuds]

Indeed.